Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams

Again, that data is likely classified. I have looked for a while and the best data we have is a BRL armor proposal for the M1A2 with and extra 25% KE and 35% CE (it might’ve been the other way around, I can find it later) from 1992.

What they should do is make the tusk a mod and the give the sevp v2 trophy then when the sevp v3 comes it be the same but better hull

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Gaijin. Fix the turret ring protection.
Deal with the Swedish-trial Abrams front armor array.
Add M829A3.
Remove TUSK and make it optional.
Make Trophy an option.
Also, see to the TOWs and give them their proper penetration for your game balance.

When they do that, I’ll play Abrams more often.

I very much doubt they’re using proper Lanz-Odermatt or Tate-Averskeeski models to model their armor arrays to stop APFSDS, and any claims that Kontakt-5 would stop an M829A3 are false in the extreme, and considering that recent events show their most modern ERA arrays aren’t fully stopping even basic tungsten penetrators on the front from their own guns. What makes them think they’ll stop a DU alloy round?

But this is just ridiculous to constantly deal with copy-paste Swedish-trial Abrams and have people complain that the reload is unrealistic (it’s not) and that it’s a buff (it’s not) when most people aren’t even using tanks cooperatively in the game.

So yeah, it’s a game. I’m not going to keep chipping my teeth away on it. I’m grinding Japan instead. Maybe when some of the guys need to run some missions, I’ll help with my line-up for some wins.

In the meantime, no amount of Clickbait players are causing this WR problem. It’s a defeatist attitude that Gaijin has now reinforced with the American mains who don’t want to even bother bringing more than 1 tank.

That, or there’s a ton of premium players/bots who will absolutely grind one module at a time and bounce out after one death, because it’s easier for them to stay sane, while driving their teammates insane.

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You do know that when they upgrade a series they take the oldest in stock and upgrade them first. Sepv2 is still fairly current and would’nt be chosen over m1a1 in reserve for upgrades. That way USA still maintains and fields their strongest equipment.

Thats fair but the current fielding plan is set for the v3 upgrade to be finished in 2028.

Contracts are renowned for going over time and over budget so i may go longer but it is currently set to be complete in 2028.

How about they make them mbt’s instead of supersized light tanks. Literally 9 out of ten shots either killl or disable gun and turret rendering you useless for 20-40 sec. They are paper and it is no way representative of reality in ANY way. The m1a1 and m60 smoked t72 models that at their time were seen as their peers. The tanks have only gotten better with time, except as far as this game goes!

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It will probably just come with another 5 tons weight, upgraded thermals, and more garbage on top to help it get nuked by heat rounds.

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What’s the source for the second image? The first image was the design proposal I was referring to, but if we can know that the 33% more KE armor was put onto the M1A2 that would be amazing.

Contributions to Science & Technology: A History by Deborah E Gray.

You can find a PDF upload here: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA305301.pdf

Should be on the Page marked as 43 (or 56 on the PDF itself)

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Just try to balance top tier, change BRs etc, all this does not matter, if abrams is worse than the other tanks just decrease the BR, it’s not like top tier was realistic, it’s been always a fantasy land.

This doesnt contain any concrete classified information that they cant verify or use…so it will not be used :p

This has some good stuff, especially on relative numbers of weight reduction when adding composite armor


it’s absurd how they made the abrams, i can’t even hide my turret anymore without getting killed because it’s so fucking big and useless shit on it.

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The fact that there is radio silence from gaijin scares me , at bare minimum if the address the turret neck to the speciation that was sent over through the bug report 250 mm and address the engine noise that should help a lot. With the br change since a lot of top tier USA players use the f16c at 12.7 so it should see more experienced player and no more 11.3 click bait and aim players.

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You don’t want clickbait players have f16c in your line up is gonna be the solution when the br changes happen

Has someone made a report about gas turbine noise?

If you know of one, can you link to it?

I hope it passes, the disadvantage of being heard from across the map is not talked about enough.

There is two bug reports but no response from gaijin yet but have good sources too.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IwaeccYGErbk

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Most click bait and aim player use the F4S as their cas plane, so if the increased the br for planes to 12.7 we don’t have to face 11.3 players which should bump the win rate a bit. But gaijin need to buff the Abrams in some way to incentivize experience players to player USA

It will only solve half the problem though. The 2A7V and 122s are still stomping around with free reign.

At least my Merkavas are getting a buff though, that is nice.

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