Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams

It’s going to need some external stowage. Brits like to carry their clobber :)

Might also be easier to get tanks from the EU. Logistics wise. Less distances, parts and experts are closer.

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I totally agree but this is the country that voted to leave the EU, cutting all its links with its trading partners over a false sense of jingoism.

The USA still have a very romantic place in the hearts of many of the Tory voters in the UK. The two world wars and one world cup mentality still very strong. Sounds like we are drifting off topic but believe me we are not, this really could be the reason for not going to Europe for the new MBT even if we should.

The work around might be building a foreign tank here under license…and fitting a boiling vessel.

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some British opinions about Abrams

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Yes I have read that and its interesting stuff. It’s an argument that has come before the chally 1 and 2 as well.
In actual fact back in my day they lent an M1 to be evaluated by the British Army (only for two days though I believe) about 1989 or 90.

Im struggling to remember the outcomes exactly, think easy access to the batteries was mentioned and the fact they were together. Superb gun sighting, aiming and firing was liked. Ease of operation was mentioned, like you could train a monkey to use an M1. Superb ease of mechanics and the fact they were found to be quite quiet inside and had nice seats.

I think the whines were lack of stowage inside and outside (surprisingly) a hand throttle as opposed to a peddle, mud collecting at the back and possibly throwing tracks and of course no boiling vessel. Open to correction there. Can’t remember what else. Long time ago.
I don’t think the Army themselves would have an issue with the M1 with a few changes.

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I find this a little funny since I was reading through rough translations from the Greek trials. Apparently the Greek tank commander managed to hurt himself in the M1 on one of the mobility courses, so that was the reason an American crew took over. Not sure if it was a language barrier issue, but I guess the Greeks didn’t find the Abrams intuitive? That or the commander just made a really big goof at the exact wrong time.

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,The M1A2 Abrams was the second best in terms of armor. The Americans offered the export version of the armor and not the “heavy” DU (Depleted Uranium) that they used on a number of their own tanks. It turned out to be particularly apt, with excellent ergonomics and user-friendliness, areas where the Americans traditionally excel. It also turned out to be particularly robust and reliable with the only serious drawback being the high consumption of its turbo engine."

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The good ending

Well, this test had T-80U and T-84, right? So Abrams should have better protection than them, even with the nerfed non-DU armor. I guess the Swedish armor package was REALLY behind the DU and Greek/Turkish export armor packages. But Gaijin won’t account for this.

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Another great christmas gift from gaijin. A shafted nation with little to no protection, hey might as well change the abrams from an MBT class to light tank right?

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Gajin loves sweden

Are you seriously suggesting the U.S. and DoD is incapable of upgrading the M1s suspension?

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Yet the only thing you have done is ignore all the proof that the suspensions were improved. Again, only noise from you. You’re ignorant, apparently on purpose.

We’ve shown documents explaining and showing the suspension upgrades, and that weight management was always a part of the Abrams program. You’d add more support in the front if you’re putting DU in the hull. Which has also been documented.

Your tired mental gymnastics don’t change reality. The Abrams received DU in the hull, and it’s had upgrades to its suspension and weight reduction efforts throughout the course of its continuing service and development. I’m sorry the American tanks are better than you would like them to be, and better than how Gaijin is willing to represent them in their “realistic” game. I hope you can find a way to cope that is less exhausting for everyone else you encounter.

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Whats crazy is these guys don’t understand the SEP programme was literally designed for SURVIVABILITY and TECHNOLOGICAL improvement, I mean what else is there to say>

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It’s obvious that these people trying to dismiss the Sep programs having better armor is to maintain their current top tier fantasy meta tanks. Can’t have the U.S. being top dog now can we?

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Its funny you mention that because 90% of the abrams kill shots wouldnt oneshot it, if it had its spall line protection

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They don’t want to accept information so I have been banned from bug reporting.

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THANKS GAIJIN

Makes me reconsider how much I really want to play this game.

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Has there been any response from Gaijin about how they’re blatantly wrong about the Abrams?

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