Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams

There are pictures of M1s with huge steel plates welded to the hull and turret of the tank to simulate extra weight of the new armor packages. There’s no way engineers wouldn’t bother with upgrading the suspension of the tank.

Also the NRC license is later amended to “AS NEEDED” meaning UNLIMITED. The 5 tanks located in the school house was only there for research into radiation exposure for the crew. Hence, why the limitation was amended after research was completed.

“may not have directly resulted in an increase in the actual protection of the armor itself. These changes could rather have been aimed at increasing the armor filler’s survivability upon impact”

“MAY” and “COULD” you guys are clearly speculating at this point. Where’s the sources for this information?

Part of the NRC “The two most recent Abrams programs are the M1A2 SEP, which involves reworking existing M1 MBT hulls, adding a new turret assembly, and completely refitting the entire vehicle, and the AIM program, which will produce a better than original production tank.”

This literally says the M1A2 SEP INVOLVES REWORKING EXISTING M1 MBT HULLS.

“ - Solid Slabs encased in stainless steel packages (This is called “DU Packages”). Radiation readings are no higher than 0.5 mrkr or 0.005 mSv/hr on the external surfaces of turrets containing DU packages in the M1 series tanks. The DU packages in the turret and hull become the DU Armor for the turret and hull.”

I don’t know how much more specific does it need to be to indicate that there is DU in the Hull. DU has been added to the turrets to increase protection in game why can’t it be the same for the HULL?

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Will there be a post similar to this about the armor of the leopard 2A7V as well?

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Sweden and China exists, bro.

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What about this report?
Leclerc MBT ( All Variants ) incorrect rate of fire // Gaijin.net // Issues

My previous report, was refused based off 1 (one) secondary source: Leclerc ( All Variants ) wrong rate of fire // Gaijin.net // Issues

I better hope this one will not refused again, since there is also a brochure directly from GIAT.

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The armour of the Swedish tanks is pretty much nothing compared to the Russian tanks, at the moment the current gameplay favours the Chinese and Russian armour the most!

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This is topic on M1 Abrams, please focus on it.
Thanks!

There is already ongoing topic on other vehicles here:

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After giving you all the reasons why they will not add the uranium armor to the chassis, showing you the sources that they have access to, and still citing the sources that the players say and giving reasons to each of them, AND YOU STILL say that you have a problem…

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Any answers for the additional sources for the L2A7V given in that thread would be appreciated, the only source cited in that post is to old to be reliable and is referencing a different tank (Leopard 2 improved). That document was written before the 2A7V was even designed.

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Could we get answers for all the other sources given as well?
Like the ones removing the limit of DU for those 5 hulls.
Or the publications stating DU in the hull?

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While I agree with your sentiment, there are even more sources they have yet to answer to.
They even talk about the limit of 5 hulls but no comment on the removal of that limit for future installs.

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This is not a thread about Abrams its about how purposely denying Abrams armor increase with lame excuses, after the mess you caused on yesterday im surprised you guys have nerve to publish this thread.

İts clear that Devs are purposely Gaslighting their community base, this Abrams hull armor and Leopard2A7V armor situation is nothing but a mess.

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Where’s its spall liners

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Naturally the US never upgraded the hull armor of its workhorse vehicle for the past 40 years, of course.

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Only russian vehicles allowed to have experimental features(thermal) of limited(1-2 tanks) series
NATO vehicles cannot
Continue to showing your true face to players, and the best idea for roadmap would be deleting the game

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To be honest with you, I don’t really care about their sources, just like they don’t care about the sources that the players bring up! The top tier is unplayable because of their bias!

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The whole point of the SEP program was to increase survivability while maintaining weight…and Gaijin used weight as a reason the armor cannot possibly be better

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We literally commented in the article on some of the sources players provided.

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Congressional Boss: What changes did you make to the M1A2 with all this money?
Gajin Employee: We’ve improved the front armor of the hull to improve the armor’s impact resistance.

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But you didn’t answer to all of them?
Some of them literally countering your earlier statements.

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…and the turret, for 31 years.

Because even SEPv2 has A2 values ingame in spite of it being a brand new gen of armor.

Oh, and also; not even M1A2 has actual M1A2 values, but those of the Swedish trials export variant which didn’t have DU, but an armor that offered ”similar protection”, except it was on the lower end and it didn’t satisfy the Swedes.

In short; M1A2 SEPv2, the workhorse of the U.S army by 2023, has the armor of an early 1990s export trials variant.

Also- doesn’t SEPv2 weight 64 tons without TUSK? For what reason could it possibly be?

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