This is where they leave the HSTV-L as is with current XM885 discrepancy
But they add RDF/LT as 11.7 with proper XM885 and XM884 and its 60 round ready rack.
The velocity and sizing is incorrect based on documentation.
Its more of the fact that it seems Gaijin has completely based In-Game XM885 off a singular picture/source which is unknown if its XM885 or not as its only labeled as 75mm. One source that we know of, they (Gaijin) might have sources that we haven’t found yet.
I will need to find the picture. When I find it I will add it here
Edit Note,
The Aberdeen photo 75mm has different sabot petal geometry compared to known XM885 sabot pedals.
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All other information we have on XM885 and XM884 differs in velocities and unknown penetrator dimensions.
I think HSTV lacks air defense more in the game. At the beginning of the game, you may encounter multiple Soviet helicopters, and your APFDS is difficult to deal effective damage. Soviet helicopters can also use APDS to eliminate you at the beginning, and most of your teammates are MBTs. When the helicopter climbs directly above the spawn point, most NATO air defenses cannot counterattack. And we all know that HSTV has been equipped with HE-VT and air fire control in history, but what is the purpose of intentionally not firing HE-VT in the game? This to some extent enhanced the survival probability of Soviet helicopters. You may say why not use LAVs, but HSTV should have obtained HE-VT in the first place
A 1 in 100+ match…
NATO already has air defense for helicopters, which is why helicopter first spawn is rare to begin with.
All HE-VT would do is reduce performance of people that don’t know better not to bring it at all.
That’s bull***.
With such calculations, Soviet shells will penetrate 1000 mm, and German shells will penetrate 1500 mm.
Abrams would have been armed with a 75mm automatic cannon, not 120mm manual loading trash
The probability of helicopters appearing at the beginning of the competition is not as low as you said, and NATO air defense is not as useful as you said. If you have played more than 50 HSTV games, you will know the importance of HE-VT for HSTV.
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It’s not impossible. The ammuntion the 75mm XM274 used were fully telescoped, which allowed a compact size and yet a long dart, delta 6 is about the maximum they could’ve gotten out of the dimensions that they had. This ~430mm pen is far from the limit of a 120mm gun (600mm+ pen) or even a 105mm (~510mm pen, with M900). If you look at the 75mm cases, you notice they are also very thick for their caliber, at ~130mm diameter, so it’s not just your usual 75mm round either.
Not to mention the HE capabilities of a 75mm round are far less potent than that of a 120mm one, which is a significant factor.
Except it isnt fictional. Germany was big in DS and FS ammo. With a bunch of ammo even beeing main production frontline ammo.
Examples the 10,5/7,5 cm Pzgr.39 TS, 10,5/8,8cm Sprgr TS, 15cm He and Apcbc DS ammo, and intended for the Pak 40 was a modified Gr.38Hl/c with extending fins. Not to mention the Röchling ammo for 21cm and up guns (including the 21cm Mörser 18 L/30)
The Pzgr.Ts for Maus, was intended for Maus and Jagdtiger, mainly to simply increase range and hitchance (velocity, ease of use).
Its even underperforming in game, as the final product could withstand velocitys of 1260m/s instead of the in game 1230m/s, while the full 25kg charge pressed it out at 1800m/s, which however absolutly shattered the projectile.
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Exactly; biggest problem with people who play this game is they think size= penetration, and don’t know how telescopic munitions work.
To piggy back off this, theoretically XM885 Delta 6 could be upwards of 430-480mm or more in Rod Length.
There’s a possibility that Delta 6 could be longer then M774 but I don’t we will ever find out any more info on Delta 6.
Having anti-tank ammo is more important.
If you want HEVT, bring an Abrams.
The current 128 mm APHEDS is beyond fictional, there was never an ammunition of this type produced for the Maus and Jagdtiger cannons, the only APHEDS that Germany produced was for the 105 mm howitzer, which failed quite spectacularly, shattering nearly every time it hit any armor.
If the 128 mm APHEDS had shattering in consideration with its penetration, like the 90 mm T33 APBC round has, thereby limiting its vertical penetration by 30+ mm, the APHEDS would have even less penetration that it does currently - but it doesn’t because only the APBC rounds currently have such a mechanic implemented into the calculator.
It doesn’t really matter of the round can shatter or not, and the last I checked, the round was tested out of a static 128 or Jadgtiger.
The round is no where close to being the best at 7.7 so there’s zero reason to complain about it.
You seem delusional, and even logically thats wrong, the 10,5 cm LeFh18 L/28s ApcbcDS, is just a 7,5 cm Pzgr.39 at 765m/s, that aint shattering ever, the ballistic limit is above 1000m/s, its the same as the Pzgr.39/42.
And the 128mm Pzgr.TS also existed, i really dont know what funky comment in some dark corner you base your comment on, but its wrong. (“Eingeführ” means In service. Btw.)
Assuming that HSTV first obtains HE-VT, it can replace some normal SPAA, such as LAV or adats, in the near air, and it can become a multi-purpose vehicle; Speaking of the m830a1, although it has high damage to helicopters, its triggering range is too small compared to normal HE-VT, so you must have a shooting prediction foundation, and most of your US teammates are unreliable. They are keen on using the m829a1 and heavy machine guns to counterattack helicopters（
Except ADATS has a 3 - 4x further range for the BR.
76mm tested HE-VT would have a tiny warhead.
HSTVL with anything other than APFSDS is just objectively useless.
ADATS does the job better.
Abrams does the job better.
bro I suggest you play HSTVL more and then discuss these further
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I have played the auto-light platform for over 200 battles now.
I already know.
By all means only bring 14 6ounds of APFSDS into a 2S38, VCC-60, or Strf 9040C, or only 14 AP rounds in Begleit, and tell me that’s better.
You thinking it wouldn’t be useful isn’t a reason for it not be added. If you don’t want to take HE-VT then that’s your prerogative but other people would like to use it including me.
If HE-VT is added with the correct auto lead the HSTVL would be very capable of shooting down aircraft, in fact it was designed to be able to more effectively defend itself against aircraft hence its higher than average max elevation.
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