Howitzers undertiered?

Ahm.

May I present the M36, and the waffentrager, and the Japanese Ho-I and the Avenger, plus (If you count semi-open guns that can still swivel all the way around), the Birch Gun, all the milk trucks, and the Deacon.

Dipping a bit into post-war sweden also lands you the Pvkv II, III, and IV, all of which solidly fall under that envelope.

Them having a turret is perfectly fine, especially since they have a ~+5.0 difference over their non-turreted contemporaries.

The M109 and crew are perfectly fine as-is.

In addition, even the soviets did some designs, samely the U-20.

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Avenger is annoyingly medium tank. I hate it. Meant no bp task completion.

It also has no coax.

The M109 was never designed or deployed as a tank destroyer. It is mobile artillery. No-one is arguing that it has no place in this game. Given it’s attributes and capabilities, it’s ridiculously OP at BR 6.0.

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