I don’t know, i want it to be playable.
With AMRAAMS and fixed 54s GJ will place it somewhere like 14.0 .
That’s why i said for a VX-4 one adding 9X as well. It won’t be good, but at least it would be as good as a F-4F ICE is at 13.0 . ^Can play^ scenario. And optional with event.
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I doubt it would be that high BR, I would guess 13.7 with AMRAAM which should still be decent. Good weapons, good radar, and a decent airframe, it would just be lacking HMD.
Let’s say it will be better than F-15C MSIP II. Overall better sensors . Someone can say with AMRAAM it’s better than F-15C GE , even if GE has AESA.
Everything else same -120C-5 and 120A/B … A/B is better in more common scenarios- and the only scenario 120C-5 is better- , bigger range you should have 54C+ which at that point can be better in distances the 120A/B can’t cover anyway…
In a dogfight (BFM) , they are about equals with different pros/cons…
So GJ can easily make it 14.0 .
About HDM. The best asset of HDM is in synergy with IR missiles for weird angles , or with missiles that can instant turn like MICA.
F-14D has IR sensor , practically the same sensor legion pod has . Which a a very strong IRST. And TV sensor.
I don’t think AIM-9M or 120 can do a backflip or shoot in too wide angles effectively … so in game and how it pictures that kind of equipment the difference won’t really be noticable. Now with 9X , yes the difference would be big…
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I still believe that they should add a f14D with aim120 theirs no point in wasting time and money and space too add two f14’s when theirs plenty of other aircraft to add and people are already getting annoyed with copy and paste vehicles as some don’t even want too see the f14D because they believe theirs barely a difference in them…btw I did read the conversation don’t assume I didn’t because I do understand what you point of view is I just don’t agree it should go in that direction.
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So,… please tell me where did Serviced F-14D tomcats (the version that should be integrated to game, if it’s coming to it) ever used AIM-120?
Only the F-14A with the F-14D modified hardware ever did such firing trials,…
but that specific variant doesn’t even exist outside the trials that have been done,…
You believe in rules that doesn’t exist yet for the implementation of tested weaponnary, to an aircraft that never used it because it required a modification that never was given to it.
the modification was about the softwares,… without the softwares being updated, any AIM-120 on board a F-14D would have been the same as Fuel Tank - not operationnal.
You’re in your right to not like the discussion, and the way it goes,…
yet AGAIN, the Serviced F-14D never were capable of firing the AIM-120, as demonstrated.
So “IF” F-14D’s ever come to the game, the ultimate desicion for it to get AIM-120 is in Gaijin hands,… not mines, not yours. and this would change a lot of potential integration around the whole game, like: R-77 (Fox-3) for Yak-141
Skyflash (Fox-1) & Kormoran 2 (ASM) for early EF-2000’s (oh another modification to grind)
R-37 (Fox-3) for Late MiG-29 variants
Kh-15 (ASM) on su-24
Blue vixen (Radar) and AIM-120 (Fox-3) on Sea Harrier FA.2
ALARM (ARM) on Rafale
AIM-152 Program (Fox-3 to replace AIM-54) for F-14D & F-22
See the problem? adding more and more missiles that never served on an aircraft for your singular joy, is like bringing chaos over the whole game.
F-14d doesn’t carry AMRAAMs irl. No one is contesting that.
They’re saying it should get it in game so that it’s not doa
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which again is a decision that is entirely in gaijin hands, because it was never done for such case before.
r27er on mig29s before 9.13s exists
As well as r27t on mig29b
They’re all balance decisions
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ok, then let’s add everything i’ve listed and more then,…
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I’m not saying I want it definitively, I’ve been both for and against aim 120s for f14d. Just pointing out the situation
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sure, but when we will get things on top-tier aircrafts that makes basically no-senses (like the EF-2000 modification for Skyflash) or OP ones that will put aircraft in delicates BR trouble (like the Sea Harrier FA.2)
then everyone could be happy because they add what the IRL counterpart couldn’t,…
i’m all for fixing the problem lieing within the game, with a realistic way of doing so,…
but adding AIM-120 to F-14D will simply kill any of those possibilties to happen.
(but, it’s ok,… i guess that i’ll go from this thread now,…)
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that article isnt valid source has people have tired using before and gajin dosent acknowledge them also I never said their was a f14D that used aim120 I was saying
Nahh really I thought I was the head of gajin or even a member to have a actual saying what gets implemented😐
Was only blue prints never made
Everybody knows this already (fork found in kitchen)
If they were successfully tested im all for it
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you realize that’s exactly similar to your F-14D situation with AIM-120,
as it was a F-14A that did it, after it was modified with some of the F-14D avionics?
get real for once
What? The aim120 exists till today the f14 did have a lot part in testing of aim120 and not just in blueprints
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Bruh
I believe these issues will be resolved with Phoenix’s enhancement, but seeing that the enhancement still hasn’t been implemented makes me feel hopeless
Well, I’m just happy my F-14D is getting implemented, so I don’t really care about the AIM-120
This is just my personal opinion, though.
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welcome to US Secrecy policy (my own guess on this one)
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Each to their own.
Personally I think it should get aim120 not just because the apg71 proved its capability with aim120 but because amraams is better than aim7p. and in terms of comparison to the aim54 has the range maybe even speed but I like the fact that aim120 has better performance in terms of weight and aero and is a lot more easy to missile joust in a aircraft that dosent have hmd or tcs model correctly (not just for the f14 ik other aircraft can have irst,tcs, and radar that can slave to work together)
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I do think having AMRAAM would make things easier, but I’m afraid it might erase the ingenuity and originality in how we fight precisely because it’s the Tomcat… It’s harder to remove than to add…
Also if the f14D does come without amraams i feel like it would be the new f14B in a higher br because aim7p would be like the aim7m and the aim9L but with aim7p and 9m and as updates come in they won’t act the same as their were first implemented
Edit: Unless they implemented towed decoys and the radar mode were it can lock onto a jamming signal
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