How will smaller future jets like F-CK-1 fit in upcoming game with Gen 5 on horizon?

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I’ve been eagerly awaiting some unreleased jets like Aida F-CK-1A, FTC2000G. I’m sure there’s many more examples of smaller Jets, that fit this as well.

Right now we see jets at 13.0 and 13.3 with lower numbers of Fox 3’s and 13.7 usually having 6+, and 14-14.3 having many more.

Some of the very interesting jets not implemented yet in lighter category like F-CK-1 which can only carry 4 Fox 3’s but can have more advanced missiles like TC-2C, I can see them existing like the JF-17 at 13.3 limited to their most basic Fox 3’s but if these jets were introduced with the more advanced missiles, Would that be something that could sit at say 14.0? if New Gen 5 end up 15.0.

Least I can imagine how J8F can sit at 13.0 with PL-12’s, Wondering if similar kinda thing can see something that can use PL-15’s for instance at 14.0 but in fewer number.

I’m also hoping we won’t see BR creep from PL-15’s and more advanced missiles being added, like what happened the F16A MLU for Taiwan, Rather see option to play at previous BR if not using the more advanced missiles.

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FCK1 won’t be within their BR range to begin with… so it doesn’t matter.

As for gen 5s, a number of them won’t be stealth so the real question is how with the fights between stealth vs non-stealth be.

In air RB it’ll cause closer engagements, but you know where everyone spawns.

In air sim, it’ll be more difficult for the non-stealth aircraft.

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Yeah thats exactly why I’m wondering how these kinda jets even fit, I can see FCK1 being at 13.3 with early TC2’s

But later ones and one of more late airframes, hows that fit, likewise with other aircraft that only carry 4-6 more advanced missiles.

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Beside SU-57 and F-22(if they give it HMD) rest all will struggle against eurofighter and rafale

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F-CK-1A (pre MLU) battle rating for all air battle mode to 13.0 only, 3rd gen IR missile and the early medium-range Air-to-Air Missile TC-2 but never integrated helmet mounted display

Pre integrated TC-2C medium-range Air-to-Air Missile, Wan Chien cruise missile, TC-2A ARM, Hsiung Feng-2 anti ship missile and Tien Chien 3 (TC-3) BVR Air-to-Air Missile

F-CK-1A (basic configuration) battle rating (Air AB, RB & SB) same F-14B, F-15A (MSIP), Sea Harrier FA.2, F-15J, J-8F, AV-8B+, F-16A Blk 15 (Belgium), JA 37Di and F-15A Baz

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I feel like FTC-2000G would be hard to balance tbh, while jeff was also conceived as an economic multipurpose jet the 2000G is even cheaper since is a heavily modified trainer aircraft that is intended to be a cheap-as-possible multipurpose jet with advanced electronics(not saying this with any negative intent) so the platform itself is not that good and I doubt its 13.0 material, now personally I would like to see it as CAS since it can carry CM-704 missiles(when that comes), laser guided bombs and LS-6 bombs and China is missing a strike aircraft between JH-7 and JH-7A I mean you have the F-5s but man I would prefer to see something original but I feel like the cheap nature of the aircraft might be an obstacle

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i dont know the detail about the plane but here what i can say.

if its early fox 3 ( r77 / aim120a ) in low number ( 4 or 6 ) it can be 13.0 or 13.3 depend on specs.

but if we’re talking about advance missile ( aim120c5 / r77-1 ) you can expect 13.7.

tbh i dont know of there is a plane in game that has top tier missile but at 13.7 in low numbers.

also decompressionis important for future addition and may change everything.

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kfir C10 sits at 13.0 with 4 derbys

Lol I started playing in 2013 and powercreep already existed back then, sorry to rain on your post but uuuh, it will probably happen again

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i am also shocked and sad they haven’t been added yet. but they would not be top performing jets. F-CK-1a with only two fox 3 and two irccm fox 1 and no HMD would only be at 13.0. the F-CK-1a mlu and F-CK-1c would be at 13.3 with the extra 2 fox 3 missiles and HMD.

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The answer is, it won’t fit in. If Gaijin is truly stupid enough to add 5th Gen this year, you can be very sure that all current top tiers are power crept, and any Gen 4/4.5 aircraft added after will be DOA.

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don’t forget about j-35 and j-20, the chinese 5th gens. they both carry 12 arh missiles, with the j-20 carrying an additional 2 ir missiles on top of that.

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I’d love to get KAI’s T-50/FA-50 series too.

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Yeah it surprised me it hasn’t been added at all and is something I’m sure will be added making left tree in China super weird and long.

I could see a few versions existing as well as you say.

But yeah what I was curious about and hopeful is they’d consider adding it with the hypersonic tc-2c and what br that would fall into with just 4 advanced missiles.

I’d imagine that would be 13.7 at least since stuff like jf-17 sits at 13.3 with 4 pl12

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I don’t know a lot about them so i did not include them however J-20 would still be missing guns so that could also be some issue

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Putting it at 13.3 will probably be the best idea.