How to use targeting optics view AH-64 SIM?

When I try to toggle targeting optics view with AH64 (GR) in SIM mode, I just get an empty view with no cursor, info or functionally to designate. How to use the targeting optics? Is this a bug?

I also noticed in SIM battles, the secondary view mode is NV.
In test flight mode, the secondary view mode is thermal.

Thanks in advance!

is your hud off?

This option?
shot 2025.08.15 20.52.43
I tried toggle but this just changes the helmet info.

I’m trying to get into this mode
shot 2025.08.15 20.53.15

This is what I see when I click it


Any other ideas why I have no indicators on optics view?

OK so figured out that if you set HUD to minimal, it strips the info from targeting optics view. Reported separately.