How to balance rafale, it's not looking good

OMG already complaining about plane thats not even modelled properly or even in game…smh…why anyone has access to Dev server in this game I will never understand…

No, they’re modeled with CM buckets, which are textured the same as aircraft currently thus can’t be changed.

Ignore the visual model of the flares themselves and focus on the amount of buckets.

Well since the Mirage F1, USAF phantom and jaguar precedent, visual should be the reference for the number of CM

Actually it would be better to have the heavy and small as they would be released one by one instead of 2 by 2

Phantoms use bucket size, same as everyone else.

In the case of the F1/Jag system, that’s another system with their own limitations.
Your idea to nerf F-16s is not a noble cause.
When there are hundreds of countermeasures it’s a different story, when there are only 60… it’s more of a nerf.

That would not be a nerf : 15 flare + 30 chaff you would keep the same number of flare drop (released 1 by 1 ) and you would earn 15 more chaff drop

Phantom uses bucket size yes with 30 large caliber and 60 small

Same goes for F-5: 15LCM plus 30SCM

false, the rafale should enjoy 2-4 degrees of more turn rate, while the EF should have more energy due to its engines.

I could be wrong here, but the Rafale has a laser-guided rocket bomb that, if the stat card is right, which is usually over-estimated by 1/3, should hit 25 miles. (it says 37 miles I 2/3 the range because that’s more likely).
I wouldn’t call that insignificant for ground RB.

Not to mention the IR version, which, in theory, should be able to self-guide via GPS and then IR lock the moving vehicle. (if gaijin set it up that way which it looks like they did, could be wrong though because I don’t have the plane)

the rafale is very unfinished in its current state, i wouldnt worry too much right now

both have instantaneous turn rates of 30 degree’s, but the rafale has a slightly higher sustained turn rate at lower altitude of 24 degree’s vs the EF-2000’s 23 degree’s and vice versa at higher altitude’s.

It should have 120, they bumped it down to 60 when the bug report for it having 120 was accepted.

I dont get why people say the rafale that we have ingame can carry only 6aam.
I get it that they dont normaly use hardpoints 2 and 13 but i can still find multiple pictures of rafale with mica on those 2 hardpoint.
Also some of those pictures are as old as 2009 so long before de f4 stadard that come after the f3-R that we supposly have ingame.

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I definitely agree on adding an airbrake function as how the real Rafale would slow down by pitching the canards and elevon at high deflection angle (as the canards can be seen pitched up about 40 degrees in videos where they perform landing procedures). I assume it would work while the aircraft is up in air but according to one of the devs responding to one of the bug report regarding the Rafale’s airbrake function, he states that deploying such feature in air is physically impossible which I don’t deny nor agree since I’m not a physicist or have experience with the aircraft irl. But I’d still love to see a function where canards move in the way where more drag is induced on the aircraft to slow them down. (also I’m sure that the Jas39 does a similar thing with it’s canards)

We dont need Eurofighter/Rafale nerf to unrealistic. Go and get it then.

The counter measure setup seems wrong on the rafale. it should have more, or even higher caliber flares no?
From: https://omnirole-rafale.com/avionique/spectra/

I think they mean 16 IR counter measure per pod? 4 in total so 64? also should it be 1 per launch or 2 per launch? i’ve seen many videos online where it’s 1 per launch (but could that only be with the extra large 60mm caliber one?)

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Do this serve any benefit? I mean maybe against something like the R-73 with the seeker still being on but it’ll be most likely worst against the Aim9M with the seeker turning off or maybe i’m just wrong lol.

The R-73 will still go through if the rise up to temperature for the larger flare still takes the same ammount of time as other IR CM

Its almost like they open a public dev server for feedback

the BR limit needs to be increased to 15.0 and things to be heavily decompressed for Eurofighter (and later hornet and perhaps F35 & F22) to be in a balanced place, gripen being the same BR as typhoon is just comedically unfair

Neither an I but based off my knowledge on stuff like this it almost likely could deploy it while at a lower speed like landing or it would have to be a very very strong and heavy material to deploy at high speeds to prevent it being ripped off (due to the lack of holes for air to go through) but I wouldn’t think that because of the speed the canards can move.

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But if they are bigger than they’ll burn hotter making them a more appealing target right?