We’ve gone over this time and time again… Your polls are skewed because only the aggrieved geneuinely care enough to hit the polls to make out the issue is there.
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If hundreds of players vote in polls for TO, then the demand is already being showcased in that way.
Filling out lobbies in custom games would do exactly the same thing just in a different way.
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A different and more convincing way.
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In your opinion, that is.
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It’s real easy to spam up a poll, because so many will sign that without genuinely encountering the issue.
It’s not just top teir, it’s commonly people who have no want to learn how to cope with any teir of SPAA, because ‘Why should we?’, and the simple answer to that is because you’ll die if no-one does, so SOMEONE has to.
After all, that was one of the issues with me telling despair how to use low BR SPAA because they were having trouble with them, but I got shouted down instantly by the proponents of this crappy mode because I wouldn’t agree with them, and let them have the ‘SPAA is useless’ angle, compared to the player genuinely not knowing or wanting to use it.
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It is not as effective as other air units.
We have been over it and many agreed.
No one forces you to vote, so using that angle is nonsensical.
Someone not encountering the issue would naturally vote against, as he literally wasn’t impacted by the thing in question.
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I always love the “just do the custom lobby” argument.
Especially how Gaijin didn’t care about SB events that were made in custom battles with custom big maps and played by many players.
Facebook group about it:
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Link to the video showcasing one of the battles played:
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But yeah, just make a custom battle!
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You’ve dictated nothing but shouting down, so pipe down…
Well, no-one forces you to vote, so it’s not accurate… How’s that?
There’s nothing ‘nonsensical’ about it, you just don’t understand it, or want to understand it… As per usual.
Absolute nonsense… So many unaffected people still vote the way they do… If they’re being told there’s a boogyman, and that they have to change things to make it easier, and they’ve literally just died to it a few times, they’d still vote to avoid that.
Just look at the point I made about despair… That guy was complaining about low BR SPAA, and mysteriously when I proclaimed to use SPAA, ULQ pounced on me and made out that SPAA wasn’t effective…
And that, is where all thios circle argument stupidity started to become a group thing.
“HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME! THIS ISN’T YOUR THREAD! YOU DON’T KNOW HOW IT FEELS BECAUSE YOU’RE CAS MAIN! YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP YOUR EASY MODE!” and all that nonsense…
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It’s not a send-off, it’s literally your opportunity to show that there’s that much demand for it… It wouldn’t be that hard to fill a lobby if it were the case, right?
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It’s accurate at showing the demand without the use of custom games.
If hundreds of people have voted for TO, there’s your demand showcased in a much cleaner and easier way.
I hope you have some evidence to back it up.
Polls already showcased the demand months and years ago, that’s already an established thing.
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Again, polls aren’t accurate.
But we’re in a community of millions…
So like, that’s not even 1 percent…
I know it’s a fact because that’s how it works…
Again, not everyone voted, so it’s not encompassing of everyone.
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Aren’t accurate in showing the true % of people that want something, but they clearly show demand for that thing.
So what do you want, hundreds of filled custom lobbies at every moment of the day ?
Then there’s nothing stopping you from giving us the evidence.
It’s showing the demand, just like having 20-30 custom lobbies would.
More than enough to send a point.
this is nothing remotely resembling anything close to a suggestion.
its impossible to overstate how much that is not a suggestion.
the fact that you go along with it shows youre a complete troll, but that already showed during your previous episode
there would be nothing different when it comes to negative effects to GRB
youve yet to answer “why should we” though
They can easily be skewed and manipulated.
I want you to prove that you have some sort of acceptance of anything other than your precious mode…
I don’t need to…
Again, it’s not going to be accurate…
Will people vote on things that don’t directly affect them?
Yes, people often do vote on things that don’t directly affect them — but why they do depends on psychology, social identity, and how they see their role in society. Here are some reasons:
1. Moral / Ethical Beliefs
Some people vote based on values, not self-interest.
Example: Someone might vote for animal welfare protections even if they don’t own animals, because they believe it’s the “right thing to do.”
2. Social Identity & Group Loyalty
People often identify with groups (political parties, religions, ethnicities, unions, etc.).
They might vote for policies that affect “their side” or group, even if it has no direct effect on them personally.
3. Indirect Effects
Many issues seem unrelated but can have indirect consequences.
Example: A person without children might still support education funding, believing better schools improve society and economy overall.
4. Future-Oriented Voting
Some people vote for policies they think might matter to them later.
Example: Young voters supporting pension reforms even if retirement is decades away.
5. Altruism
People sometimes vote to benefit others (friends, family, vulnerable groups).
Example: Voting for healthcare expansion even if they already have private insurance.
6. Tribal / Symbolic Voting
Sometimes voting is less about the policy, more about expressing identity.
Example: A vote on climate action might be symbolic of belonging to an environmentally conscious group, even if the voter personally won’t feel direct effects.
But there’s also the flip side:
Voter apathy is higher on issues people feel don’t affect them.
Ballot measures or local referenda on niche issues often see low turnout unless a strong moral or group-interest factor is involved.
👉 In short: people will vote on things that don’t directly affect them, but usually only if the issue connects to their values, identity, or a broader sense of “the common good.”
Unless you actually retract what you said, and acknowledge that you misquoted, and misunderstood what was put forth to you, don’t even try ‘converse’ with me…
You had your chance.
Still really good at showing the demand.
People voted Yes for a reason.
If you claim something you need to present something to back it up.
If you can’t then that’s nothing more than an anecdote that holds little to no value.
If people voted Yes they obviously support TO.
It’s a simple concept really, at least I hope it is.
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Not everyone played the lobby….
64 people is not enough for a mode….
And 1000 more arguments that would come after the game would be played in a custom battle.
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I’ve seen you managed to fill 50 full lobbies but that’s nothing, you gathered ~1500 players in a game with millions of players. Too low demand.
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Portraying Gajin as stupid is great way to be ignored.
No.
If you didn’t read the post, then you missed something… I suggest you go back and actually read it.
You’re ignorant to the points because you don’t want to accept other points.
Not everyone moans about how bad the game is, but here we are.
Get out with your circle arguments tro keep arguing and shouting down.
You haven’t got that proof, so stop talking trash and forshadowing.
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