How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

To be honest, at least the Sergeant York is an actual SPAA (only HE and HE-VT munitions), while the gepard can wipe anything off the map with its AP-T rounds. So a good player can use the gepard to win a game or carry it. You can’t do that in a Sergeant York.

True, but having bad AA stats in M247 means something is not being done properly. The only excuse is not having HE-VT researched yet.

Lmao. I did not expect y’all to stoop as low as winrate.

Dude, you cannot speak when you have unironically said the M247 is better at destroying ground targets.

What

I hate CAS and ill admit its potency has greatly diminished since the recent spaa additions over the past 3 years. The skink isnt the best but it can absolutely clear a sky while remaining safe. Something the once 6.0 m42 struggled to do. Previuosly germany alone had a monopoly on fully armored spaa.

But at 10.0 to top tier jdam jets fly at such a high altitude theyre in the radar deadzone of most spaa. And other jets fly across the map so fast that by the time you get a radar ping theyve already gone behind a mountain. And they somehow got 2 kills in that amount of time. You CANNOT increase your skill to deal with a jet flying fasrer than your missiles can lock and track or faster than you can manually get missiles anywhere close to on target.

Like what u write.

SPAA not being idiots do help… but as we all know… CAS not being idiots will still win lol.

Also… there is ONE MAJOR OVERSIGHT here in my opinion and that is:
The first Encounter on the Battlefield, that an CAS has, is usually not an SPAA but the MBTs that drive around, especially early game.
For some reason everyone that arguments about the CAS problem always keeps forgetting that its just absurdly unfair to need to die first, to even think of countering the CAS.

If you think about where your SP goes:

Enemy Player has enought Points to be rewarded with a CAS (wich is to cheap in general, wtf costs it less then the Attackerdrone?)
He Spawns in CAS, can kill without being harmed on first encounter and is being passiv rewardet with the fact that his enemy now needs to (or already has) give SP away to counter him.

Not only that but also the Player who needed to invest SP in the SPAA is now in most circumstances useless for the most of the rest of the Battle, with increasing cost on everytime you spawn into a Vehicle he has to now sit in the SPAA and “hope” that his invest will make an profti, by more enemy CAS spawning, or he needs to give up and invest even more to come back into an MBT.

So… its not only the CAS being way to strong, its the whole mechanic behind it that sucks.

In my opinion, one SOLUTION, that should be fair enough, would be:
Give every Tank the ability to “spawn” your own SPAA besides you, for free (or with same SP cost) and without needing to give up your tank. Like it is for the Scout Drone, Atom Bomb or the new Multi Vehicle SPAA.

This is in my Opinion, at least i haven´t seen any better ideas, the best solution for this, lets call it “CAS first encounter” issue. And yes, it wont help if CAS is still OP… but atleast i would not need to die first, would be able to encounter it without me getting an extra penalty, cause i need to die and invest SP to try to counter the CAS.

Winrate reflect how much a person influence is on a matc- Oh wait, you don’t know that , cause your brain can only comprehend what infront of you and yet it did a terrible job at it. You fumbled the bag so hard and now trying to salvage what left of your reputation as a human being , not just a player.

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Crazy how much bad faith posts like this get made and are allowed to stay up but anything else gets flagged and removed.

He Pangolin_Fan. What do you expect, he probably one of the biggest Gaijin lapdog. Got a reputation of constant bad take to the point people start making fun of him.

0.77 K/D (statshark)

I have done many kills with BT-5 at top tier, it means that BT-5 is great against it and should be higher!

Like come on, there are proper air weapons that can deal with Chaparral without it being able to fight back.

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I just watched your last game. Beside you got killed in a T95 for being actually dented.
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And where is my 6 kills pangolin fan. All I saw was you did absolutely nothing from start to finish. Sit in one place and do nothing , you managed to kill a single jet that was flying straight beside that you contribute nothing

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People are adapting to fast games so that planes that spawns 2min after the start have to care about (if not taking the most defensive reactions, according to all cas haters)
*at least around 10.x-ish BR where I usually play now

yes This is a major logical problem of the game, similar to spawn camp prob, that those who did well can have a further advantage. By this people will overestimate cas power when they see teams that spawn no SPAA being slaughtered by the worst cas, in the case of 9.x 10.x brs

Hope that there may be at least ONE plane spawning.

Or try to have fun at the front line, making stat shamers laugh

Indeed
For me I would have dedicated spaa members, 3 free spawns of SPAA (others can still spawn spaa) and still with the sp system. CAP sp should be lowered/ or change br, and CAS to have more changes accordingly. I don’t see any advantage of going on a plane at 9.x 10.x brs anyways

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feed me SPAA’s
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This is me with my saab105g. At low tiers people barely (if at all) move their spaa from spawn. I got a ccip with saab105 and there were times I got direct hits on spaa from about 2k alitude and 4km distance. Just put the reticle on em and press space. They just don’t move

Am sad no RADAR am lowtier

It is always interesting to see how people still belive that SPAA is going to help them in any way.

Just had an interesting match which is a good example of what I’m talking about:


As I’m spading the crews in russian, I’m playing with premium T-34-85 and spit to speed up the proccess. As I have died in T-34-85, I saw an 2S1 camping on the hill near the spawn on poland and bombed it (time 3:07). The player I have bombed spawned in SPAA and up untill 10:53 tried to shot me down. He even tried to hide from me and change locations, but I just needed to wait for proper moment to destroy him after I took care of his teammates in planes (that too spawned in SPAA and were unable to kill me). After I have killed him in SPAA, he spawned in M109 and tried to use it as SPAA, he even shot down one plane! But after I bombed him while he was distracted by another player, he just j-outed as there was nothing he could do (probably should spray him to get a kill, but I understand why he did that).

He would have much more chance and probably would succed if he only spawned in a plane first to take care of me while I would be trying to get rid of his teammates in plane, but he choose an SPAA that didn’t give him much of a chance.

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