Well, the main issue is probably pointing your gun where the rounds need to go, while also avoiding crashing into the bomber.
I’ve seen those numbers go all over the place, 2-4 was what I had seen the most.
Also, I assume you’re talking about the 3rd row from bottom? Doesn’t that mean with 5% hits?
It’s the time needed to achive the required number of hits to bring down the target, using the amount of guns specified, considering a 5% hit chance.
It lists 75 for the 15mm, 20 for the 20mm and 5 for the 30mm. 50 and 55mm guns only need a single hit.
Even though the 55mm was designed specifically for that goal, so 50mm would probably not be enough depending which part of the bomber was hit.
That’s the point of this thread.
Which one did you suggest?
Started playing bombers yesterday ?
Bomber DM’s have been like this since 1.29 update
A prototype of the He 112 B, but instead of a 700hp Jumo 210, it’ll have a ~1200hp DB601Aa. Actually closer to the 109 E-3 than the E-4 since the supercharger isn’t improved.
Yeah, a 5% hit chance sounds about right. 6x 15mms and 75s is hilarious though, right now in-game I’d wager the 109 F2 actually hits harder than the F-1 or F-4. Much better ballistics too. Shame we don’t have more aircraft with 15mm guns.
They deal low structural damage but at the moment they are very effective in setting fires since they still explode in a sphere, since are one of the few guns that still don’t have realShatter.
In that comparison the 15mm is shown having 2.8g of explosive but those small explosive rounds are practically useless. The 15mm Incendiary on the other hand would be a lot more lethal and I also would consider AP-T and API a lot more effective, since they can actually penetrate pilot armor on most fighter planes.
In the whole comparison it only compares explosive shells, while 15mm, 20mm and 30mm also had Incendiary ammunition, which Germany used in conjunction with the Mineshells.
Wing ripping is caused by two things. Either exceeding the G limit, or the critical mach number. The reason a wing rips after passing critical mach is because the airflow separates, creating an insane amount of drag and turbulence that shakes the the wing apart. You can see this when you go at high speed, your wings start to shake. The reason a 20mm won’t do this is because a prop bomber is going nowhere near fast enough for the vibrations to rip apart the wing, assuming only the skin is damaged.
…So that’s why they felt strangely reliable.
I can believe that, though in-game it feels like 20mm IT does fuck all.
The incendiary chance of 15mm IT is the same or lower as 12.7mm API while penetrating less armor and dealing less damage. They are as useful as Tracers shells for other calibers.
Infact practically any Incendiary shell is severly underperforming. Only API or HEI are useable, because they penetrate or explode.
15mm AP also doesn’t kill a pilot in one shot, which leaves on the the HEF-T round to deal useable damage to a plane.
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What do all of the pics have in common (including the fake last one)?
That they are all back home safe? And yeah the last one’s fake, but still, Planes are Durable as all hell.
Here is a real picture of a IL-2.
No. That none of them had a main spar failure. Which is the subject of this thread.
Huh? Do you not see the one plane that legit ate a 88 flak round DIRECTLY to where the wing spars are and it made it home fine?
Do you have eyes?
What im saying is that Plane’s aren’t fragile little delicate things, they can take a POUNDING, and keep flying.
A SINGLE tiny 20mm round isn’t gonna break a wing clean off.
Need i bring up the video of a ME410 dumping its entire Ammunition store into the Wing of a B-17 and it being perfectly fine?
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None of your photos show any hits to the a wing spar.
I’m not sure why you choose to annoy me with your post but I will not respond further. Good day.
Ah yes… TOTALLY not part of the wing/Wing root.
Sounds great. The He112 feels nice but is too underpowered to do anything well. Having a 1200HP engine would definitely help and probably have it behave like the 2.7 Ki-44-I.
yea that last one is definitely fake