I keep looking at the tree are it’s all just garbage, even the premiums and event vehicles are pretty shit and I have neglected the tree forever since they haven’t gotten something worthwhile in ages, but every time I think about grinding it I look at the tree and just don’t bother, and everytime I see the top tier Phantom I just alt f4 with how insulting that is.
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Eurofighter’s coming, Germany is saved. MiG-21Bis is pretty good
Yeah finally something instead of that piece of crap, but still have to get there… but air is miserable when you aren’t keeping up with the updates.
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mig21bis, mayyybe 21mf but thats kinda overshadowed by bis now lol, the 11.0 f4f can be kinda fun, duuno about taking mla out nowadays
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Mig-23BN, my favorite 9.7.
Alpha Jet.
Lim-5P.
F-4F, a great 11.0.
Mig-21MF.
Su-22s.
That’s it, that’s how I grinded the ranks.
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Mig-21Bis/MF, Mig-23MLA, and either the phantom or F-104. At rank 6 you get the Lim-5, Cl.13, maybe the G91, and the mig-19s if you want something like that. I’ve had an awful experience in the mig-23BN, not having flares at 9.7 without having excellent speed or energy retention sucks so much.
I’ve heard it isn’t bad at 13.0.
Why? And how could it be good?
I’d crew it if the stock grind wasn’t truly awful.
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If it were me, id either get the Tornado IDS WTD61 in the december sale or slap a talisman on the ASSTA1/MFG and just base bomb in sim all day long. The 11.3 BR + always paired with the Mig-23MLDs, makes that a rather easy grind.
I have a coupon for the Tornado, but base bombing seems like a miserable thing, especially since they ruined the whole thing with bases that don’t respawn because why not make the game even worse at every opportunity.
Thats why I recommend Sim. Always something to bomb, big maps, etc, Talisman + Premium in the Tornado Gr1 I was earning around 100-120k RP an hour when I was grinding the GR4 and it was pretty chill.
If you have the MFG especially, then anti-ship gameplay doesnt look half bad at the moment
But I know Sim isnt for everyone and yeah, ARB sucks for base bombers
we used to be able to base bomb grind with the 22 but its been powercrept to slow land.
mig-23bn is best for base bombing if u take 4 500s and zoom with min fuel to nearest base.
you could take more fuel and then some rockets or gunpods to switch to gunfighting too
mig-21bis is solid (rb and sim) but gotta learn the flight dynamics a bit, f4F is okay, can be made to work (just not in sim)
mis-23mla is great for both sim and rb
take max 6 bombs with tornado ids and keep base bombing
mig-29 can be made to work but gotta be more careful with new sarh and clutter changes. mig-29G is dead
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The tornado sort of works in the mind numbingly boring sort of way. The problem is you are entirely dependent on your teammates failing to bomb the bases before you can. I’ve been using the memeflieger, which is functionally identical to the premium one in most important aspects.
I basically have been trying to follow a flow chart while watching youtube videos.
- Equip max bombs and stealth belts
- Set bomb series to 6 per drop
- Takeoff
- Set your radar to ACM mode and then turn it off because you don’t need it yet and don’t want it alerting anyone to your presence
- Set your CCRP computer to automatic bomb drop and target one of the right bases. I target the right bases since most people target the left ones.
- Climb to 5km and fly straight at one of the right bases
- Set countermeasures to periodically deploy your 1200 (LMAO) chaff the instant your RWR makes a noise for the first time
- Be thankful that the russians and more importantly the french with their MTI radars can’t lock you while you’re high up and littering the planet with scrap metal like some kind of Captain Planet villain.
- Be thankful that the F-4S bomber legions are too dumb to use their search radars
- Be thankful that EJ Kai players are myths
- Be alarmed if you RWR shows mig-29 since that’s the mig-21 bison and he can shoot at you just fine
- Pray that your teammates don’t survive their dash to the right bases, since they will beat you EVERY time if not shot down first.
- Drop bombs on one or two bases with CCRP computer if you can. Just abandon the bombs if the bases get killed first.
- Orbital strike unsuspecting opponents from above with 9Ls
- Finally use your guns to either kill some pillboxes or get some air kills with the help of your EEGS gunsight.
It has been working for me, but it is not pleasant, it is not entertaining, and it is not as fun as grinding the american air tree by just slaughtering people with sparrows with the F-4S.
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You need at least 4 missiles to destroy a ship. And there is a bug with Tornado radar. It detects destroyed ships.
There are some bug reports about that.
Yeah, heard about that. But thats just gaijin not modeling the warhead right yet or something. I need to take the PGMs out in that role. Destroyers dont last long vs 2000lb warhead
thr premiums are mid, unless you like bombing then the Tornado isn’t that bad it’s just a regular Jet bomber
in the tree I found using the MiGs to grind the most fun
the 21MF is at a good BR for it’s missiles and the 23MLA is a good allrounder too
the MiG-29s are awesome, although SARH only
I’d skip the starfighter and F4F for Efficient grinding unless you like bombing bases then you can use the Phantom well for that, but not much more
the F4F-ICE is mediocre at top tier but that’s why it’s at 13.0 where it’s armament is not only competitive it’s absolutely dominating, therefore it’s still a Phantom
you’ll need to grind the phantom because that line will most likely be where the Eurofighter will go
MiG 15 bis is excellent
Lim 5P is excellent
Mig21 MF is excellent
Mig21 Bis SAU is quite okay.
Mig23 MLA is excellent
Mig 29 is quite okay
Mig29G is quite okay juat gotta get past the radar missiles.
Shoutout to the Alphajet that is an excellent little dogfighter for its tier
F104G sucks nowadays
F4F is quite decent actually.
F4F KWS at 13.0 is perfectly fine. Not really that much fun or anything. Its a Phantom and the AMRAAMS do all the work pretty much.
Also, shoutout to the paintrain that is the Tornado IDS. For some reason I enjou flying that. I should maybe get a brainscan.
And then after that you get a Eurofighter. Most likely a Tranche 3A as it looks now. If it is implemented anywhere remote realistically. It is going to be the best parts of an F15 and an F16 rolled into one. Its an absolutely ridiculous aircraft that is going to curbstomp anything that isnt another eurofighter, a rafale, or an F15E
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na the Tornado ain’t that bad imo
it’s just a Bomber at a BR where you find few bombers
oh, that easy i can tell you how and why
grits and determinants and hopes that one days it’ll get better something that US and RU mains will never understand and seem finally paid off
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As much as I love thst thing. It IS kinda bad IMO.
It loses the race to the target 9 times out of 10 to F4S’s that are bombing. F111s are also muuuuuch faster. I even find MiG23MLs thst are bombing that also handily out speed the Tornado. Even without bombs it just isnt fast enough.
And I mean maneuvering wise its terrible. A Tornado would lose a turnfight withbthe average moon
Looks like I’ll be employing this strat in the ASSTA1 since i can’t bring myself to play the F-4F any longer
Either that or play the BIS SAU and then spade vehicles alongside it