You have a massive speed advantage for 1, but no flares, generally speaking, if a slower plane pulls behind while you’re at Mach 1+ if they are further than .5-1.0km’s out just full AB and run.
If you have low energy, carry some FFAR pods, their rocket motor will flare away a missile.
For radar missiles; just stay low in the radar shadow.
That’s really it. (Do not bomb bases in a fighter, the actual bombers and strikers will greatly appreciate and applaud you. If you’re stock grinding though, it’s acceptable)
This logic doesn’t exactly apply. F-4C has its correct weapons, and giving it any more powerful weapons will only make it worse.
And this ideology can also apply to stuff like the Su-27SM. The SM could carry R-73M’s, and the Kfir C.10 could carry Python 4’s. Many planes don’t carry their exact weaponry due to balance.
The MAIN drawback of the F-4C is the lack of CM’s. Giving it more powerful weapons and pushing it into even more powerful missiles doesn’t seem logical.
Well it handles like a bus, slow (for the BR) and crappy missiles (The radar makes this ever worse). The F4 is not fast like you say, it can go fast sure, but good luck getting fast with your crappy engines. it is objectively the worst possible experience ever, I suggest you play it. It already faces missiles it cannot dodge, so putting higher up wouldn’t change a thing.
its easy to take it out at 10.3 tho u cant doge a aim-9Ls /r-60m or anything tho aim.9c or r-3s and they could still give aim7d if they want to todo a early/late versions tho and if we look at the su-17m2 with NO Flairs tho but has 6 r-60 and ur at 11.3 and u cant doge shit or defend and u can barrel bomb at any tier above 9.3-13.3 tho because there is only 4-5 base witch they should give us more base like have 12-24 base that makes so people wo want to bomb can and people that want dogfight can still do that and it would make it a lot more easyer to play and u can add more bombers and add the F-4G phantom2 as the air to ground anti radar rockets making way more fun while making it having 50v50 in a lobby or if u don’t want it that high of mount of people they should let us choose from 8v8 o 16v16 24v24 and 50v50 tho
Yep. Couldn’t have said it better. Unless Gaijin adds the AIM7E to the F4C, it will forever be a plane that players skip due to it being genuinely horrible, even for long time players.
Can be played well, but i think its the hardest plane to use in the US tech tree by far. Also, its dependent on the matchmaker which uptiers it to 10.7 most of the time…
It requires the patience of a saint to do ok with it. But passive playstyle is very much un-meta and often just results in you being alone vs many, or winning because of your team without doing much, if anything.
The single biggest problem with the F-4C is that everyone knows it’s flareless. So as soon as someone spots you everyone on the map with decent missiles bee lines for you for the free kill (and why wouldn’t they). Because for some reason, unlike most other jets, Phantoms display their variant designation on the nameplate no matter the range. If they made it so it just said F-4 for all the variants it would reduce a lot of the pressure. But as it stands, playing the F-4C is like playing on nightmare difficulty - you’re everyone’s priority target.
Otherwise it’s a moderately decent aircraft. Granted, your success with it is entirely reliant on whether or not the enemy sees your 10km+ sparrow. I’ve had some success with it and it can be quite fun doing BVR at 10.0 but, due to everyone targeting you most games will be just you vs the entire world’s missile armament and the result will be misery.