How do we judge effectiveness of IRCM upgrades of helicopters against ground SPAA?

I am constantly spamming flare before they lock or shoot. But entry level missile SPAA from 5km seems to lock on to me easily.

I don’t want handout for chopper CAS. I just want to understand what is the best standoff distance and tactic to play against ground SPAA like ozelot. Let’s assume I am in the sky, no obstruction.

what heli u on?

Mi-35M, all IRCM upgrades unlocked.

iirc the Mi-35 has its IRCM block on its rear hump so it wouldnt work unless the missile is coming from the side and decently equal altitude to you, also the Mi-35M only has an incoherent IRCM which is an older tech and is not very effective against more modern SAM seekers.

one thing u can use against IR SAMs is to play at ur max ATGM range distance from the battlefeild as well as keeping on automatic flares when u do pop up attacks

Early ircm is basically useless against IR spaa missiles, if you want to evade them after they’ve fired on you, try launching rockets. I recommend using S-13OF, you can try to either parry their rockets, or redirect them.
If it’s an IR missile, just fire them, if it’s saclos try to parry.
Also, you could use iglas to redirect them but eh

This makes sense. I remember parrying Roland 1 back to back 4 times with my Atakas, but mofo had put ammo box probably since he was constantly shooting at me.

I carry S-13OF already and will give it a try next time if I see the IR missile. Thanks.