BOL being about 1/4 the strength of regular CMs (due to 100% fake ahistorical nerfs that were applied more than a year ago, except the burn time reductions, those are correct).
For Flares this is slightly complicated because in luminosity you need around 2-3 flares to match that of a regular flare, but they also have a much shorter burn time. This means to pre-flare effectively you need to drop them around twice as often. In reality, BOL “flares” aren’t flares, but a cloud of chaff like material that produces an IR signature on contact with the air creating a luminoisity similar to that of a large calibre flare (maybe even more effective than a large calibre flare) but with a short “burn” time. (one of the few truly effective CMs vs IIR seekers)
This is also without mentioning the IR signatures issues present on the Harrier’s which makes flaring anything far far harder than it should be, which is only getting worse this major update
For chaff, its quite simple, they have 1/4 the mass they should have. There is a little bit of debate regarding the casing weights, but in essence, BOL Chaff should equal 1 to 1 regular chaff used on most other aircraft.
So with that in mind, as of right now, the T.10 has approximately 140 CMs total60 + (320/4).
Year+ old bug reports are in for both the flares and chaff. Naturally, if they ever get actually fixed, then this will have a greater impact on balance and a BR increase might be needed. But ultimately CM counts are a relatively minor thing in the long run and might have no impact at all. Especially as the Gr7 (99% the same aircraft as the T.10) had 4x BOL (700 CM total) prior to the BOL Nerfs (and they were literally standard calibre CMs back then. burn time and all) , and prior to it recieving Aim-9Ms had a BR of (post-decompression estimate) of 11.3/11.7 in SB and was widely considered over BRed in ARB (had a higher BR in ARB than in ASB of what would now be approximately 12.3) in fact its BR did not increase at all when it went from 4x Aim-9Ls to 4x Aim-9Ms (it maintained that BR with 4x Aim-9Ls for an entire year without issue until the 9Ms were added and was another 3ish months till the BOL nerfs occured after the Gripen was added)
TLDR: 2x BOL, even if they were standard CM strength, would probably still be 11.3. 4x BOL would probably be 11.7 based upon the Harrier Gr7 having the same amount of CMs before at the same relative BR
iirc. 11.3. But that is largely irrelevant as we havent got a single 11.3 ground vehicle. So the lowest it will operate is 11.7. Which places it at the same BR as the Tornado Gr1 (which is better is down to personal prefernece) and would be 0.3 lower than the Gr7 which has 100% identical A2G loadout, but 9Ms and 2x more BOL
Yeah, Gr7 was fairly good for low level hit and run attacks, having the T.10 for the 11.7 line-up (which can sometimes be quite good for netting downtiers) might be quite fun.
Though both the T.10 and Gr7 should actually have 6x AGM-65s but are limited to only 4 at the moment and TIALD should be Gen 2 not Gen 1
Also, Russian helicopters have a wickedly high heat signature as well, I had to do some testing with a buddy after I was unable to kill an unaware Mi-28A (the Swedish one), after 4 Fim-92Es missed. He was standing still and dodging them magically.
Meanwhile in my own testing, the KA-52, 50, Mi-28Nm, N, 35, 24, 8, all couldn’t stop a stinger.
There was 1 outlier of the KA-52 blocking a single stinger, and notes the fact these all had ircm, the exhaust vent, and cms going off to defeat the stinger.
I think he means 320BOL is not the same as say 320Standard CM’s, Per single flare standard calibre you would need to drop 2 pairs of BOL for 4 total, to match a single standard flare in luminosity and duration.
R-77s, and R-27s, along with the ability to to carry either R-60s or R-73s…
There’s all sorts of other things the Su-39 is missing, but I’m just brushing the surface.
salt the T.10 gets to be usable? and its VERY good right now. the new RWR sound is very funny too (the “new target on rwr” indicator" ) and the maw. pretty fun
I’ve not even seen another person playing it lol! I’m waiting to re-create the 3 in formation (unfortunately we dont have a grey + 20SQN camo, just the green one)
already had a dogfight with an F5E and MiG23, and caused a maneuver kill on an F/A-18A. The harrier II buffs are decent enough, not too noticeable in actual gameplay. The MAW is very helpful at this BR and with the BOL is usable too! first time ive not turned it off for an aircraft
