Yeah, we’ll see. Should be a good addition though. Plenty of secondary armament
(thought it was 14inch guns not 15)
It’ll most certainly have to be changed I think, as that’s nowhere near the gun’s IRL performance. And only the mounts were the same, and the actual guns were Mk III on the Renown, not the Mk I used on Illustrious. Since WT usually uses the gun’s name, there’s a good chance that a new and different Mk III gun might be added for Renown. Not to mention that Illustrious is currently an AI-only ship, whose AA capabilities are heavily nerfed in order to act as targets in air battles. We’ll see.
Also @Stielhandgranate @WrldWekztCapt I’ve taken a look at navweaps and it seems like the RoF on the Renown’s mounts are much lower then the destroyer mounts. That’s a shame. But 12 rpm is still decent, though this means the overall effectiveness of all 20 barrels will be slightly less than Nevada’s 16 5"/38 barrels and about equal to Alaska’s 12 5"/38 barrels.
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Sadly from the (non-detailed) plans I’ve seen, it looks like the ammo might be right at the waterline, which sucks and could make her 6.3 worthy(but Gaijin might make her 6.7 anyway).
On 6.7 it is not comparable to poltava or nevada. Sure, it can ammorack them if lucky but that can also be said about glorious. Both can be easily put out of comission by actual battleships.
Since its armor and amount of guns are roughly intermediate between 5.7 glorious and 7.0 hood i think 6.3 would be decent spot to start, 6.7 after decompresion.
I dont know the actual armor scheme but if it is anything like hood’s then its ammorack is going to be easily blown up.
It’s armour was requested to be the same as Invincible class - and that’s what they got - a 6" belt. It got a little more deck armour after Jutland and more in 1917.
From the wiki article:
It added belt armor after Jutalnd too. That’s why Gaijin stated as ‘The ship is modelled for War Thunder in her latest upgrade, with a 229 mm armoured belt, as well as a 102mm armoured deck.’
Besides, Hood is quite a survivable ship, one of finest module layout among all capital ships at 6.3 ~ 7.0. If Renown resembles same module layout, it will be quite survivable despite thin armor.
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Yeah see my other comment where I mentioned that already. We’ll have to see about the ammo rack location. But my hunch is that Gaijin will just look at the 15-inch guns and the amount of secondaries and AA, and put her at 6.7, sadly
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You need to read more closely. During the reconstructions that changed her superstructure and replaced the secondaries and other stuff, she was also refitted with a lot more belt and deck armor.
Basically, its the weaker 114mm gun right?? because i was expecting that IF it don’t have HEVT, i hope to see it have SAP or AP shell at least that as capable as Battle-class SAP
See my comments where I mentioned you.
DOES its gun have SAP or AP shell… that’s what i didn’t notice your comment… you mentioned about RoF and its comparison to other 5" gun on Nevada & Alaska but not its shell which i’m not familiar here
Also Mariya/Poltava and Nevada are like the best of the 6.7s. Comparing a ship to the best ones at that BR, and then using that to argue that that ship shouldn’t be at that BR, is not good under the current compression.
We can be fairly confident that she’ll get all the shells that the Battle class gets.
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Hood overall survivability might be decent, I cannot comment on that tho since a single hit below waterline and the ammorack blows up.
Poltava, Imperatsija, Nevada and Arizona all gonna disassemble it in about 2 salvos. So whats left really? Wyoming is hard to compare since that thing is poorly balanced with decent shells and tragic ammorack. Dont know about italy, and colossus is going to 6.3.
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Well that’s just because of La Royale’s underwater pen changes, which could always be changed again in another patch. As it is currently, ANY ship that isn’t a Scharn are very vulnerable to underwater shots from battleship caliber guns. Even Scharn isn’t completely safe.
IIRC the devs have said (through the mods) they’re monitoring to see if the current state is too excessive or not, so there is a bit of hope there.
This being a late war version as well, it might have received extra armor over the hood. The hood was suppose to get upgrades that may have saved her. Prehaps other battlecruiser were given that upgrade after she was sunk. So might be a little more survivable
Sure but there are ones that are more vulnerable and ones that are less. Scharn is top as you said it, kronst is bit worst but usually survives ammorack, comparable to it is fuso ise hyuga and malboro all of which might survive it but it is less probable. Then there is bayern, after which we have alaska hood and parizkaya which by 7.0 standard have really fragile ammoracks. On top of that out of all mentioned I never seen hood survive an ammorack but that might just be because I rarely seen them.
Well yeah. The compression just makes it really hard to compare ships even at the same BR… Poltava and Mariya also have pretty exposed ammo racks and not a lot of armor. Remember Poltava’s belt is just 225mm, not any better than what Renown will get. Duilio has decent guns and underwater ammo racks, but her armor is still quite thin. And if you consider Kommuna and Kongo/Haruna to be 6.7 worthy(since they certainly aren’t worth 7.0 rn), there are actually quite a few ships that could be called comparable to Renown if you want.
If Renown has exposed ammo racks, she’ll be 6.3 worthy. If she doesn’t, she’ll be 6.7 worthy. That’s my opinion. She’ll still see a lot of 7.0s in battle regardless anyway.
Nah. Renown already received all the extra armor she could get during her 1930s refits. Hood (and Repulse) was just set to be refitted in a similar manner. AKAIK no additional armor was added during the war.