The only thing i am SO frustrated about this kind of MAJOR EVENT is when Gaijin adds 2 naval vehicle prize in either Summer OR Winter once a while as SO FAR it seems that mostly either tanks or plane/jet prize that been given 2 slot many times
Not to mention that it was quite long since last year or 2 ago that we (player) got such chance nowadays
From what I can find, it looks like the 114mm guns are the same, but they used slightly different designations based on the mounts. I hope that’s the case. It gets old having someone bring in their F-84 that can never be shot down and continuously drop accurate dual 1000 pound bombs every 60 seconds or less in arcade.
The mounting on HMS Renown is actually already ingame, on the aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious. It has different stats from the ones used by the Battle-class destroyers, mainly a slightly higher firerate and only being provided w/ time-fuzed HE, instead of having that and ordinary HE, SAP and HE-VT as the destroyers do.
( qf_mk4 and qf_mk5 are the variants used by the Battle-class ingame )
It 's possible that the characteristics of this weapon will change when Renown is closer to becoming available, but at present this is the performance we can expect from it 's secondary guns.
Nah Britain doesn’t have much “BR tax” now with the newest BR changes, aside from York. Renown really can’t be 7.0. Like, she’s essentially a much worse version of Hood, which is 7.0 already. We’ll see.
It’ll most certainly have to be changed I think, as that’s nowhere near the gun’s IRL performance. And only the mounts were the same, and the actual guns were Mk III on the Renown, not the Mk I used on Illustrious. Since WT usually uses the gun’s name, there’s a good chance that a new and different Mk III gun might be added for Renown. Not to mention that Illustrious is currently an AI-only ship, whose AA capabilities are heavily nerfed in order to act as targets in air battles. We’ll see.
Also @Stielhandgranate@WrldWekztCapt I’ve taken a look at navweaps and it seems like the RoF on the Renown’s mounts are much lower then the destroyer mounts. That’s a shame. But 12 rpm is still decent, though this means the overall effectiveness of all 20 barrels will be slightly less than Nevada’s 16 5"/38 barrels and about equal to Alaska’s 12 5"/38 barrels.
Sadly from the (non-detailed) plans I’ve seen, it looks like the ammo might be right at the waterline, which sucks and could make her 6.3 worthy(but Gaijin might make her 6.7 anyway).
On 6.7 it is not comparable to poltava or nevada. Sure, it can ammorack them if lucky but that can also be said about glorious. Both can be easily put out of comission by actual battleships.
Since its armor and amount of guns are roughly intermediate between 5.7 glorious and 7.0 hood i think 6.3 would be decent spot to start, 6.7 after decompresion.
I dont know the actual armor scheme but if it is anything like hood’s then its ammorack is going to be easily blown up.
It’s armour was requested to be the same as Invincible class - and that’s what they got - a 6" belt. It got a little more deck armour after Jutland and more in 1917.
It added belt armor after Jutalnd too. That’s why Gaijin stated as ‘The ship is modelled for War Thunder in her latest upgrade, with a 229 mm armoured belt, as well as a 102mm armoured deck.’
Besides, Hood is quite a survivable ship, one of finest module layout among all capital ships at 6.3 ~ 7.0. If Renown resembles same module layout, it will be quite survivable despite thin armor.
Yeah see my other comment where I mentioned that already. We’ll have to see about the ammo rack location. But my hunch is that Gaijin will just look at the 15-inch guns and the amount of secondaries and AA, and put her at 6.7, sadly
You need to read more closely. During the reconstructions that changed her superstructure and replaced the secondaries and other stuff, she was also refitted with a lot more belt and deck armor.
Basically, its the weaker 114mm gun right?? because i was expecting that IF it don’t have HEVT, i hope to see it have SAP or AP shell at least that as capable as Battle-class SAP
DOES its gun have SAP or AP shell… that’s what i didn’t notice your comment… you mentioned about RoF and its comparison to other 5" gun on Nevada & Alaska but not its shell which i’m not familiar here
Also Mariya/Poltava and Nevada are like the best of the 6.7s. Comparing a ship to the best ones at that BR, and then using that to argue that that ship shouldn’t be at that BR, is not good under the current compression.