Tiger I H1, awesome machine. My favorite german heavy tank. If you know its issues like the chassis-installed grenade mortars which inhibit the depression of the gun in certain angles and know how to position well against a enemy, is a very solid and fun vehicle to play.
As support vehicle you should always bring a Panther tank, anyone of them is great, Panther G being the best while the Panther F is situational due to the turret design is not the best to face the enemy directly at close ranges, it have coincidence rangefinder.
For anti-air you have Zerstörer 45 which also works against light vehicles with HVAP some times. Ostwind II also isn’t useless, it’s a on-budget Flakpanzer 341 alternative.
For close air support you have two good premiums options: Do 335 B-2 with both cannons and bombs or Ju 288 C with only bombs, but a big one, it’s situational so make a wise choice for which fits your play style.
Tiger E sucks, Panther A/G/F are very good but lack good reverse, F has rangefinder which helps a LOT, u can uptier them to 6.3 with the JagdPanther and get a cool long 8.8cm that pulverizes everything while having quite good armor and mobility, or use Waffentrager with turret and paper armor but also long 88mm. Zerstörer 45 is an amazing SPAA but u need to learn how to aim with german 30mm (it’s not ez imo). M109G with crazy HE makes it a very good option.
snipe ur enemies, don’t play close range or u will get crushed by anything with a cannon slightly better to urs (basically everything, especially in uptiers against IS-2 and T34).
it also counts armor for a heavy tank, if it doesn’t have armor then it isn’t a heavy tank. Panthers lack armor, their turret can literally be penetrated by a M24 if close enough and there’s tanks at 6.0 (M4/T26) that can pen it’s hull with ease, so all u can do in a 6.0 Panther is to relie in ur mobility more than in ur armor (even with that ugly reverse).
rare exception and this is only semi safe in downtiers.
they are better armoured than the tigers
couple little spots yes. but what cant find a letterbox sized hole to pen other vehicles in this game?
your hull is stronger than tiger, mantlet just as strong as tiger, faster forwards but much worse in reverse. Significantly better gun making it a very good heavy-medium sniper in a similar style to centurion.
yeah combined with the worst armor that can be penetrated by anything at it’s BR, and if u get an uptier facing something like a Jumbo or a M41A1 (which literally has APDS) it’s armor is absolute paper.
saying the 6.0 Panthers have good armor is like saying Tiger E has bad mobility.
both have the same mobility with Panther being 1km/h faster while Tiger E has a way better engine, both have destructive cannons that can pen basically anything at it’s BR, with the Panther having an easier job destroying tanks thx to it’s almost 200mm of pen.
Panthers are no-skill tanks while Tiger 1s are “skill matters” tanks. if u don’t angle a Tiger, it will obviously have paper armor, if u angle it, basically nothing but a 122mm soviet cannon can go through it.
Panthers don’t force u to angle if u want good armor, whatever ur turret can be penetrated by anything u face (especially at 6.0), Tiger E forces u to angle to get good armor, and the turret is way better armored (~200mm of turret armor depending where u shoot) and the hull can have around 140mm at 30/50º which makes penetrating the Tiger E almost impossible for convensional cannons (except the enemy player is smart, but well that also applies for the Panther since a smart player would go for it’s turret).
Panther G have really good armor in turret / front it’s really good to push the enemies with it.
Panther F is better for long range because you have range finder and better reload 6.7 ACED crew but weaker turret armor.
Tiger E also great to push but angle your tiger.
Zerstörer 45 Great AA but don’t camp your spawn try move to other places to enemy plane lose your location.
Waffenträger 5.7 but the gun can kill any tank at this br it’s king tiger gun but change your location and
wacth for enemy planes.
M109G use it as light tank be sneaky and carful from enemy planes your armor so weak.
For planes germany cas very limited at this br because the good cas aircraft are premiums :(
Fw 190 F-8 1000kg bomb great against both ground / air also you get option to use 2 mk103 gun pod which are really good with 77mm pen also Air to Air radio guided missiles.
Ta 152 H-1 really good fighter only no cas against AA maybe.
Bf 109 k-4 good fighter you get 500kg bomb
He 177 A-5 best cas option but need good timing to use the bombs 4x SC 1800kg bombs
did u just forget how war works or are u just literally ragebaiting? armor is what prevents u to get killed.
armor actually garantees that u don’t get killed, just like having enough crew members prevents u to get one tapped when somebody penetrates u (for example, in a Tiger II).
we were literally talking about relying on armor in a heavy tank is “always a mistake” when it isn’t cuz most heavy tanks (not all of them) always relie in their armor, not their cannons/mobility.
they’re categorized as heavy tanks for a reason, right? Maus doesn’t have mobility to relie on it/IS-4M doesn’t have a good cannon to relie on it/Churchill VII has nothing but armor to relie on it since the mobility sucks and the cannon is the same as a 3.7 Sherman but in a 4.7 platform and with solid APCBC while using the EXACT same shell. it obviously faces Panthers just like Panthers face T-44-100.
6.0 Panther is NOT a heavy tank/capable of being played as a heavy tank.
the only Panther that can MAYBE be played as a heavy tank is the Panther D which has even better mobility and a super low BR, just don’t expose ur turret too much.
if u don’t angle.
a little???
cuppola armor is irrelevant cuz no matter how well armored it is, it’s still penetrable for most things (and even a lvl 1 player would aim for the turret than for the “cuppola”). also Panther A/G have a huge cuppola while Tiger E has a way smaller cuppola and just the Panther F has the exact same size as the Tiger E’s cuppola.
cuz u’re stupid if u don’t angle ur german BOX with flat armor everywhere.
ofc, it cares for “non-pen” hitcam.
shooting the turret face? the same turret face with double the amount of armor as the Tiger II’s turret? the one that has around 200mm? yeah ofc…
where did i say that? if u’re trying to make fun of me then i warn u that u’re falling very low with that.
20mm. generally if its penning a panther mantlet its also penning the tiger mantlet, other than the m3 75mm, all other guns are more than powerful enough
ah yes let be tack at angles down this road as i move to a point. You play WT right?
I take you havent played russian 85mms much. the BR365 is a god shell for 6.0s Br range.
no the 75mm jumbo, which you used as an example of a problematic enemy (Its not)
go play the churchill mk7. as soon as youre facing a player that wouldnt count as sealclubbing youre done.
not the same gun, and its using the 3.3 shermans ammo without the HE filler.
can play it like a faster IS1. decent armour but still easy to defeat, decent mobility and a one shot kill garantee gun. Quite enjoy the IS1 from that playstyle
u need to be ragebaiting… there’s absolutely no way u’re actually this dumb.
aiming for the Tiger’s lower side armor is not that easy since the shell can collide with the side skarts and/or the track which sometimes does it’s classical magic and makes a shell that should pen, non-pen (happened to me more than once in the IS-2 when facing Tiger II).
also most players don’t know that weakspots.
and btw u’re comparing the wrong tanks.
again, Tiger E has almost 200mm of turret frontal armor, Panther has barely 100mm.
again, just if u’re stupid u won’t angle ur Tiger E. and yeah i play WT, do u even play Tigers? ur stats show 99% of british tanks and as i have seen u have pretty bad and low amount of battles in ur Tigers (not saying i have better ones tho).
i take u haven’t saw my stats, u tea enjoyer. im literally a russian main.
ok know i have just discovered u are blind. i was referring to the 6.3 Jumbo, which is also paired with the 6.3 M41A1, u need to be dumb if u had read “5.7 Jumbo” (whatever there’s a T1E1 with a M26 cannon at 5.7 which can obviously pen the Panther’s armor).
thx for proving im right.
ofc…
both Shermans are the same. and imo it’s not justified why the Churchill VII uses a solid APCBC instead of the explosive APCBC found in the Churchill NA75, the fact it uses a different cannon with a Sherman projectile doesn’t look so fair for me.
with the difference that IS-1 can tank shots straight to it’s turret.
ur best option is 6.0 Panthers and Tiger E, Zerstorer 45 is very good but has poor survivability and hard to aim cannons, u can bring Waffentrager or Jagdpanther depending in if u want to have a 6.3 tank.
about planes, i recommend u to bring the Ta 152, it’s a very good option to take down planes and tanks if u’re lucky with it’s APHE bullets, u can also bring the attacker version of the Fw 190, it’s an amazing attacker with high survivability and still a Fw which means it’s a very good dogfighter and BnZer.
