HESH is completely unusable. Shell shatters on most vehicles even when using 183 mm HESH with 17 Kg of explosive mass.
It is in this state till 2017. Please finaly fix this round rather than make it less usefull every time.
Shell shatering is new for the shell.
HESH is mostly a missunderstood shell. more detailed answer here: ( When will HESH be fixed? - #4 by Necronomica )
But if you think there is actually something wrong then you can bug report it here (just search a bit first so that you don’t report something that is already reported and known about): (Gaijin.net // Issues)
A guide on how to report bugs can be found here: ([Navigation] Technical Knowledge Base | War Thunder Wiki)
I’m asking to be sure, because I still don’t consider myself “experienced” at this game. The spall fragments comes from the plate hit at 90 degrees from the plate, not the angle the shell impacts on the plate, right? I still shoot for spots with ammo racks or crew right behind the point of impact but I still do much less than expected, sometimes nothing.
Correct.
Do you have a screenshot or a replay you can link to where it happens?
I’m guessing it has to do with spaced armor ow something similar, HESH only works if it hits solid armor and not if it hits anything else that is on the outside before the armor.
Apologies, I don’t see how to hide the images behind drop downs.
At this point, I’m in the protection analysis with the Conway’s HESH and looking at the T44-100 at 7.0. I’m trying to place shots where I can recognize pieces on the plate or hull to recreate the shots in game. I haven’t faced anything with spaced armor yet, that I know of.
This shot will land on the plate over a gap in the fuel tank. This shot does destroy shells in the protection analysis, but slightly damages the crew without detonating the shells it destroys.
Should I be prioritizing injuring crew and hoping the spall takes them down? Does spall detonate ammo racks, or does Protection Analysis not show injuries and damage from exploding ammo racks?
Looking at the M48A2 C at 7.7, courtesy of Germany, I’m having similar issues. Glancing blows on the side of the turret takes down most of the turret crew, including throwing spall to the other side of the breach but does little to nothing to ammunition.
Gunner and loader in the above are dead, but the ammunition on the other side of the plate is only scuffed and not exploded.
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I don’t think the protection analysis shows ammunition detonations no matter which shell you use. I think ammunition detonations are not guaranteed either but a chance based on what type of ammo it is.
Yes it can, but detonation chance is based on how damaged the shell gets and spall tends to do less damage to ammo than a penetrating shell would.
I think in general HESH is better at taking out crew but it depends on the tank. Like if your facing a Tiger II you might be better off going for the ammo stored on the sides because the turret is protected by the tracks:
Thanks for the information on the spoiler tagging, I’ve cleaned up the other post.
As far as shot placement, I shoot for clean, bare patches of armor that don’t have any hooks, lights, track armor, or odd decorations to make sure I’m not bouncing (Bouncing a squash head, what the hell?) or shattering the shell. I guess I need to learn more weak points.
Thanks for the help and the advice!
Well yeah, it’s not made of glue and EVERYTHING has an angle at which it no longer goes through something and instead bounce. Toss a fistful of clay towards a wall at a shallow enough angle and that too will bounce out.
I don’t think HESH can shatter, uncertain though.
Happy to help :)
