Not necessarily. The infantry models that are already in-game just kind of fall over when they’re shot. The animations for them being knocked are no different than the crew knock animations. The only difference is they aren’t in a vehicle. They have the least violent possible animations for being shot. Try it out with the test map with some of low rank US test flight maps. You’ll see what I mean. The rating would be just about the same.
They just fall forward or backwards.
If there are people on the ground you can run them over with a tank… Can’t really handwave away what is happening to them.
The game already doesn’t handwave you away from your tank crew getting shot in the face by HEAT rounds. It quite literally shows you with the X-rays. It kind of lets you know exactly what’s happening to them. They could also just make it impossible to run them over. Same way you can’t shoot down or fly into parachuting pilots.
You know there are games for this already right?
I have yet to find any other vehicular combat game that includes controllable helicopters, tanks, airplanes, and ships, from WW2 to modern day, where you indirectly support infantry. Most other games have only one of each and have nothing to do with infantry.
Old thread, same topic, strong in favor, couple of thoughts.
“Go play Enlisted”–doesn’t do it for me unfortunately.
Priorities:
Player control:
Infantry Abilities:
Infantry Behavior:
How it plays:
[0] These commands can be implemented individually (like binoculars) or have an infantry radio sub-menu (“dismount”/“load up”/“move to position”). A short cooldown to movement commands keeps potential weirdness at bay, and positional commands can be issued either from the worldview or tactical map, like calling artillery.
[1] It’s a stretch to say this is necessary, but without some kind of automatic pathfinding-to-cover infantry will inevitably spend most of their time standing out in the open and be useless for capping points.
Consider the above as the minimum viable mechanic.
Consider the following as moonshot fever dream feature bloat:
If you want this, play Enlisted
Are you trolling me my man? Is the bait dangling?
It’s unfortunate, but Enlisted doesn’t do it for me.
Try the Battlefront series of games then - all-arms company-battalion sized games using “we go” - not as fast paced as WT or even Enlisted.
Or HLL
Okay, “Go play Steel Beasts”.
It’s cool mechanic in Battlefront (which I’ve enjoyed but didn’t stick to), but “play a game with groups of infantry and combined arms” isn’t the main motivation here. For better or for worse (ahem) there’s something singularly riveting about WT.
I ruminated on infantry in WT for a bit, found this thread, and posted my comment. Let’s dispense with the “play some other game” reply, discuss said comment on its merits, or dispense with the conversation entirely.
Yes, its the vehicles. The game is all about the vehicles. Adding dismounts will dilute that. There are already many games have combined arms.
Infantry dilutes an infantry fighting vehicle like a cannonball dilutes a cannon.
And I mean come on, if I wanted to play a game “all about the vehicles” I’d play Gran Turismo. The vehicular bedrock leads naturally to many things about the game that I like, but it ain’t why I like it.
It does if you only care about/want to play tanks and not worry about getting squads of dismounts to go where you want and shoot in the right direction (ala Steel Beasts, ARMA, etc).
No it absolutely does not “lead” to that.
WT is principally a airplane game BTW.
No it absolutely does not “lead” to that.
I didn’t even say what I liked about the game, so how could you know it doesn’t lead to it?
WT is principally a airplane game BTW.
I get that we’re playing word games but you’re not helping your case here.
Did you forget what we are talking about here? lol
Do I need to parse this sentence for you?
For me it is the speed of the game - you get the “buzz” from a game that lasts anywhere from 5-25 minutes - HLL takes an hour, I played 1st series of Combat Mission for several years, but games too an hour or so… or PBEM gamers went over a few days.
I can’t see adding infantry functions as doing anything other than slowing the game down.
I can’t see adding infantry functions as doing anything other than slowing the game down.
Make 'em run fast?
Seriously I’d hard counter that you’d spend less sitting on points, more time sending infantry into potentially hazardous cap situations, with more and faster caps overall. If an infantry squad is locking down a point the game isn’t static, the team that squad belongs to is working towards winning the game.
Oddly enough I strongly agree with your overall point (the 20 minute buzz), but also like the speed in regard to the speed of tanks and how it makes it overall slower and more deliberate than other twitch shooters (that would be one of the things that the vehicular bedrock “leads to”, Exocetta). I feel like game length happens above all that.
But thank you sincerely for engaging with the substance of the discussion! You are a light in the darkness!
