I cant see any reason for it to move in GRB.
But we’ll have to wait and see about ARB once we actually get the correct FM. At the moment… It would easily be 11.0, but its a total placeholder
Thales Belgium’s 70mm FZ rockets are also an option
Photo there shows both LAU-32 and LAU-51 launchers in use in Malaysia
LAU-51 and 70mm FZs on display alongside BAT-120 and Brandt 100mm rocket launcher
Yes it looks like the LAU-5003 launcher we have for CRV-7s ingame, but that’s because Gaijin have modelled the wrong launcher for our CRV-7s, and keep confusing LAU-51 and LAU-5003 on several planes.
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After a bit of a spat with Smin, it seems that they’ve no plans for Sea Eagle to go to any other platform but hawk, are opposed to the introduction of comparable systems because of “the limited gameplay use”.
Ignore the fact that the stagnant gameplay with little development is why there’s limited gameplay use.
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Well, that’s BS.
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That’s the nicest way of putting it, yes.
Flavours of Hawk 200 cause people keep asking:
Prototypes:
ZG200:
The intial first prototype, lost in a crash in late 1986.
Features:
- Aduor Mk.871 engine, 26 kN of thrust.
- No RWR
- No Radar
- Two 25mm ADENs cannons
- No wing tip AAMs
ZH200 (Early):
Built as a replacement for ZG200, this is the variant we’re getting in game.
Features:
- Aduor Mk.871 engine, 26 kN of thrust.
- Skyguard 200 RWR
- No Radar
- Two 25mm ADENs cannons
- No wing tip AAMs
ZH200 (Late):
Later in life ZH200 was slightly modified to better represent the final Hawk 200 configuration
Features:
- Aduor Mk.871 engine, 26 kN of thrust.
- Skyguard 200 RWR
- No Radar
- Cannons removed, instead relying on a belly mounted 30mm ADEN cannon pod
- No wing tip AAMs
ZJ201:
ZJ201 was the final prototype and demonstrator, unfortunately crashed in 1999.
Features:
- Aduor Mk.871 engine, 26 kN of thrust.
- Skyguard 200 RWR
- APG-66H Radar, a cut down version of what was fitted to the F-16A
- No on board cannons, instead relying on a belly mounted 30mm ADEN cannon pod
- Wing tip AAMs and Radar guided missiles
Production Variants:
Hawk Mk.203
The Hawk 200 variant for Oman.
Features:
- Adour Mk.871 with 26 kN of thrust, or Aduor Mk.951 with 29 kN of thrust
- Skyguard 200 RWR
- APG-66H Radar, a cut down version of what was fitted to the F-16A
- No on board cannons, instead relying on a belly mounted 30mm ADEN cannon pod
- Wing tip AAMs.
Hawk Mk.208
The Hawk 200 variant for Malaysia.
Features:
- Adour Mk.871 with 26 kN of thrust, or Aduor Mk.951 with 29 kN of thrust
- Skyguard 200 RWR
- APG-66H Radar, a cut down version of what was fitted to the F-16A
- No on board cannons, instead relying on a belly mounted 30mm ADEN cannon pod
- Wing tip AAMs.
Hawk Mk.209
The Hawk 200 variant for Indonesia, later fitted with a new RWR.
Features:
- Adour Mk.871 with 26 kN of thrust, or Aduor Mk.951 with 29 kN of thrust
- Skyguard 200 RWR or SEER RWR
- APG-66H Radar, a cut down version of what was fitted to the F-16A
- No on board cannons, instead relying on a belly mounted 30mm ADEN cannon pod
- Wing tip AAMs.
Hey! Thanks for making to the end, if you’ve noticed any errors, or if I’ve missed something, please let me know and I’ll go fix it ASAP!
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All of your adour engines are off by about 400 lol
Ticket for the 70mm FZ rockets
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JT8OViogvypi
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Also missing SkyTrash, unless they add that on a different version added in December. The APG-65H is has a CW illuminator iirc
This exact prototype didnt have radar, but they did say in the dev stream that they may add a second hawk this major but probably next that will have the radar and Skyflash combo. But they said something about not knowing how to balance it and so it might not have the Skyflash which is really dumb because it would be fine at 11.0/11.3
wait is this thing getting gunpods or not?
Yeah, like a Sea Harrier FRS.1 [L] but with 2 more missiles and usable radar, 11.3 is probably the best BR for it, I think they don’t know how to balance it because it must also be completely overshaddowed by every other thing at the BR because G@yjin
Edit: At 23:03 in the Dev stream, Oxy says that the onboard cannons are removed. How would that be? Surely that can’t be right, can it?
Yeah.
Or a Viggen C but instead of supersonic, an internal gun and TWS, armed with 4x Aim-9Js and 2x Skyflash its instead subsonic with no internal gun, no TWS (I think) and armed with 4x Aim-9Ls and 2x Skyflash.
It balances out quite well.
Yes, it is. The guns are located in the nose, the radar is in the way. It can get external 30mm ADEN gunpods, but it is a missile truck. I imagine like the F-104 though, you can pick your setup. So instead you could have 6x Aim-9Ls and the 25mm ADENs
Radar isn’t in the way. The guns just didn’t work (same reason Harrier GR.7 never got a 25mm Aden gunpod IRL), so were removed from the design before the radar was fitted.
The first Hawk 200 customers Oman and Malaysia were buying Hawk 100s that would still be using the 30mm Aden pod, so by 1992 it probably wasn’t worth pursuing the 25mm gun on ZJ201.
Production Hawk 200s still have the bulge under the cockpit where the cannons would have been. It’s just where the muzzles were going to be either side of the nose gear well, has been faired over
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I thought 4 SkyTrash not 2
I didn’t think they were wrong but having to rely on only missiles is a bit concerning, having the same aiming problem as the Harriers as well
Ah… interesting…
My bad then. I assumed it was a physical confliction.
I dont know. 2 seems to be what most mention
Gaijin logic… don’t even attempt to understand it because there really is no such thing.
They’ve been drip feeding AShm’s into the game for a couple of years… either do it or don’t, and if they are going to then give them a purpose.
That aside, there is simply no valid justification in not making them available to all of the Sea Harriers.
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I’ll give you their justification:
“Nuh uh”
