I never see anyone playing the hawk 200 so i got it and oo my its soo slow my max speed is maybe 530mph everyone else at br 10.7 is doing at least 730mph yes it can out turn most but getting from spawn point to firing range on a ground target is sooo long.
My experiance is most of my team or enemy team is dead before the hawk in firing range of anything if i make it at all as other fast supersonic jets will engage me half way to battle and flares and chaffs dont stop the incoming missiles or i fall asleep due to the long flight to a ground target and dont see them.
It needs to be lowerd to at least 9.7 to even have a chance
4x 9L = can’t go lower than 10.7 even if it was a prop
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7.3 airframe with 10.7 missiles. should be 10.0
flareless planes don’t agree
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They need to worry about the AV8-A more ngl. That thing is a million times better than the hawk 200 is with only 2 9G missiles because it can slightly turn, but climb really well (plus infinite countermeasures)
A-10A: “Am I a joke to you?”
Well, the poor A-10C at 11.7 is still slower than your aircraft. The Su-25 and Alpha Jet is also slightly slower than your Hawk 200
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Bro a hunter in war thunder will out zoom climb it. Basically most jets will.
Its turning capabilities are a joke.
Its whole implementation is a joke.
climb is the one thing that the harrier is good at.
if that was fixed (and the CM box was on the GR1 and GR3) id be fine with it tbh
Irl yes but in game it is extremely bad.
It’s never getting fixed. I’ve tried, there exist no other sources to make reports on I’ve literally collected them all.
do you actually play them?
yea we know. The whole world knows you tried
I’m sure this is super fair for the 9.0-10.0s that don’t have flares. It’s not like we’ve uptiered the A10 and Su25 from lower BRs to avoid this same issue or anything.
I think you just have a UK bias.
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Last time I checked at least with the FA.2 in sim I made up about 70% of total play time.
Yes I probably know their performance better than anyone.
Any jet that climbs at a set schedule will easily out climb the harrier
350 knots slow speed you’d expect the harrier to smoke everything yet a MiG-21 is 30 seconds faster to just 20,000 feet
(IRL ithe harrier is considerably faster climbing especially at 350 knots but you get that this is an in game comparison)
To these planes without flares a 9L is still better than a SRAAM lets be realistic.
the hawk is abysmal. Ideally id prefer it to have its STR fixed so its closer to alpha jet and get 9M so its actually playable.
gaijin wont even give it its gunpod so moving it down is the only realistic way of making it not feel like a prop at top tier
No, it isn’t. SRAAM requires rear or at the very least a side aspect. It is avoidable by not letting the lard boat of a harrier or hunter behind you.
If it’s truly unplayable then the best solution, if gaijin does not decompress, is to leave it unplayable.
So 11.7 BR minimum. Don’t bring up Jaguar IS or JH-7 being 11.3, those are also undertiered and should start at 11.7 minimum (preferably 12.0). Hawk being subsonic can be 11.7 like A-10C
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If you want to lower it to 9.7, then the Italian AMX must also be lowered; as you can see, it’s not the only aircraft with a high BR
Alpha jet and amx are fine they are both overperforming garbage
Alpha jet is at BR 8.7 and can still be used, while AMX is at 10.7 and is almost unplayable.
