HAVIC-15: Cry 'havoc!' and let slip the… LAV sled?

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HAVIC-15 AAAV: Cry ‘havoc!’ and let slip the… LAV sled?

Please note: this is not a suggestion for the LAV-25, which has already been both suggested and passed, but rather for the unique vessel which incorporates a complete LAV-25. As such, very little attention has been given to the LAV-25 component.

OVERVIEW

TL;DR, it’s an LAV-25 on a boat entirely controlled by the LAV’s commander in his turret, not by crew directly on the hull. This was designed for the LAV specifically, and should be thought of as a vessel with the LAV as a superstructure. It isn’t very quick at 23.4 kts, but the stabilized 25mm Bushmaster is a potent weapon, the crew is at least protected from small-caliber fire, and – depending on implementation – even if the sled hull is destroyed, the LAV-25 can still happily float on its own– if it hasn’t been holed. The extraordinarily shallow draft of only 0.69 m renders it effectively immune to torpedoes while underway.

HISTORY

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1. BACKGROUND
The USMC wished to replace the AAVP-7 with a more potent vehicle, and – by 1988 – had tried and failed several times over the course of 15 or so years. In 1988, the USMC had kicked off the Advanced Assault Amphibious Vehicle (AAAV) program, which sought to provide a vehicle capable of 20 kts in sea state 3 (Beaufort Scale, 0.5-1.5 m wave height). Making a heavily armored vehicle perform well as a boat proved a curse: the AAAV program did eventually produce the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV), armed with a 30mm Mk44 cannon and capable of 25 kts with 2 ft waves, 72 kph over-land speed, and protected against 30mm rounds from 1000 m, but the program was plagued with issues and delays. The first prototype of the EFV wouldn’t appear until June 1999, ten years after the start of the program. Further prototypes showed up in the 2001-2008 window, with Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) planned for 2012-2015, twenty four to twenty six years after the start of the program. EFV would never make it to service, but that’s its own story.

2. THE CONCEPT
Back in 1988, when AAAV started, CACI International had a bright idea: the High Speed Assault and Interdiction Craft or HAVIC. Slap the USMC’s current standard IFV on a waterjet-powered sled hull, tie it down, give the commander control of the vessel by tele-operation right from his turret (including releasing the tie-downs!) via a box on a long cable, and send it cruising to shore (where the vehicle being transported would then disconnect and dismount). Remote operation of the vessel from the comfort of the turret would also allow the vehicle to fire while assaulting the beach, a capability that at this time was unique.

3. THE VEHICLE
CACI submitted HAVIC-15 (so named for its 15 ton nominal payload) as part of the AAAV program, and the craft as pictured was demonstrated at Camp Pendleton in 1988.

HAVIC was a simple, cheap, easy solution, which at worst would’ve given the USMC an ideal interim solution as an alternative to upgrading the AAVP-7 a few more times while waiting for the doomed-from-birth EFV to materialize. Consequently, the demonstrator was scrapped in 1993.

BASIC INFORMATION

DESIGNATION: High Speed Assault and Interdiction Craft (HAVIC-15)

WHAT: Waterjet sled for delivering vehicles (LAV-25 in particular) to the beach

WHO: CACI, Inc., built by Federal/Progressive Metals

WHEN: 1988

ARMAMENT

1 x LAV-25
Just like it says on the tin

  • The LAV-25 carries a 25 mm M242 Bushmaster
    • 210 rds ready (150 + 60), 420 stowed
    • M791 APDS-T, M791 HEIT
  • The LAV-25 also carries a coaxial 7.62x51mm M240
    • 440 rds ready, 1200 stowed

ARMOR

Superstructure: LAV-25

  • Standard LAV-25, HHRA, 4.71 mm to 9.71 mm
  • All-round protection against 7.62 mm ball

Hull: none

  • Structural aluminum pontoon skid

SPECIFICATIONS

CREW: 3+6 (Standard LAV-25)

DISPLACEMENT: 13.8 tons light, 29.7 tons full load

DIMENSIONS (L/B/D): 13.77 m, 4.34 m, 0.69 m

PROPULSION: 3 x Cummins VT-903-M marine diesels, 3 x Roper waterjets, 1200 bhp

SPEED: 23.4 kts calm, 20 kts sea state 3 (Beaufort Scale, 0.5-1.5 m wave height)

RANGE: 80 nm

SYSTEMS:

  • LAV-25
  • Ramp bow
  • Remote operating control system on a long cable for the LAV’s commander.

CONSTRUCTION: Thin aluminum + LAV-25

PERFORMANCE

PROS:

  • LAV-25 armament, armor, and systems.
  • Can still float even if sled ‘compartments’ fully destroyed
  • Psychological impact

CONS:

  • Armament is potent only against light coastal vessels.
  • Armor is ineffective against any serious naval gun
  • Speed is mediocre
  • Crew is limited and concentrated

ADDITIONAL PHOTOS

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Patent drawings which appear identical to the vehicle as it appeared. From Source #11

SOURCES

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  1. Marine vessel and method for transporting a vehicle. Mark S. Rice & Paul D. Hunt. Patent, 1985. Retrieved from: US4681054A - Marine vessel and method for transporting a vehicle - Google Patents
  2. Combat Fleets of the World 1990/91. Pg. 828. U.S. Naval Institute Press. Retrieved from: Combat fleets of the world 1990/91 : their ships, aircraft, and armament : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
  3. Marine Corps Seabasing Capabilities, Today and Tomorrow. Pgs. 23, 27. Presentation by Jim Strock, 17 November 2014. Retrieved from: https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2014/expwar/TuesStrock.pdf
  4. Marine Corps Gazette July 1988. Pg. 6. United States Marine Corps. Retrieved from: The Marine Corps Gazette - Google Boeken
  5. The U. S. Marine Corps in 1988. Colonel John C. Scharfen, USMC (Ret.) in Proceedings Vol. 115/5/1,035, May 1989. Retrieved from: https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1989/may/u-s-marine-corps-1988
  6. National Security Cutter: Enhanced Oversight Needed to Ensure Problems Discovered during Testing and Operations Are Addressed. Pg. 20. GAO Report. 12 January 2016. Retrieved from: https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-16-148.pdf
  7. Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle. Presentation before the NDIA Combat Vehicle Conference. 21 October 2008 Retrieved from: https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2008/combatvehicles/Crane.pdf
  8. AAAV - At the Brink of Prototype, Collie J. Johnson in Program Manager Vol XXVII, No.6. November-December 1998. Retrieved from: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA359290.pdf
  9. United States Marine Corps PM-AAA Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle. Major John L. Medeiros (USMC). Presentation before the 43rd Annual Armament Systems: Gun & Missile Systems Conference & Exhibition. April 2008. Retrieved from: https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2008/gun_missile/MedeirosJohn.pdf
  10. High-Speed Assault and Interdiction Craft (HAVIC™). Hunt and DeLaVergne. Presentation at the Advanced Marine Vehicles Conference, June 1989. Retrieved from: https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.1989-1502
  11. LAV Armor Plate Study, Report, 1992. Retrieved from: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA257674.pdf
  12. New craft could raise ‘HAVIC’ for Corps. Lance Cpl. E.V. Walsh. Camp Lejeune Globe. 27 October 1988. Retrieved from: https://media-cdn.dvidshub.net/pubs/pdf_63985.pdf
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Completely absurd. I want it now. +1

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This is so goofy… yes please!

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That makes me wonder… if this is actually implemented, once the sled is destroyed the LAV could land on the beaches and sandbanks common in coastal maps and fire upon enemies from the shore, which would add an interesting aspect to naval battles (unless the killjoy devs make all the islands redzones).

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patrick star rub

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I think there’s potential there at least for a really exciting naval + ground ‘amphibious assault’ gamemode, but I assume that as things stand Gaijin would probably just ignore/disable the LAV’s ground vehicle capabilities for naval battles. Which would be fine, if lackluster.

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+1, would be an absolutely absurd addition to the game

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This would honestly be amazing, imagine just dismounting on the cap point and throwing shells down range from behind cover

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Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.