P2w? The forum users have been going on about the Hungarian tiger for years so whose fault is it that we all have to endure it now?
“Italy must have a heavy tank in WW2.” Well now you have got one.
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Omg, it has more tracks, it’s OP!
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30mm armor. isn’t it enough?
It’s not about Italian tiger. It’s about those tracks.
What do you expect from these people at this point? Germany has gotten shafted to the bone, I feel bad making fun of them anymore.
Better variants of your own vehicles at other trees
Artificially nerfed armor
Go figure
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what do you mean? the only heavy tank in italian tree being premium or the add on track armor?
if you mean the only heavy tank being premium i can understand and even agree a little bit. but regarding the add on track armor they have recreated a hungarian tiger track armor set up during ww2.
https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/3X/4/5/453cabc4f5486bffb18da76ba6f0a71ded3e105b.jpeg
it’s not only NOT p2w it’s an excellent example of attention to detail and care for your craft. therefore your argument is immensely wrong. p2w or even pay to exist is the fantasy in game japanese tiger that should be removed due to non-existence-ness, let’s not go there.
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The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with this one…
What’s that SPAA?
30mm extra right where it counts.
A handfull of Italian mains anyway…
You just aim for the side cheek of center hull.
Germany has a premium Tiger with 200mm frontal armour at 5.7.
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Tracks? Are you serious? It can help in some situations, but it isn’t something which drastically improves the armor, especially at br where Tiger sits (btw it isn’t 30 mm, but ≈15 mm of RHA). On the other hand this premium doesn’t have smoke grenades, which is a fair tradeoff (or even worse), it is a similar situation to German (has tracks armor and sideskirts) and Italian StuGs (has smokes), even though at lower br tracks bring way more difference.
PS imo having such differences is nice for similar tech in different TTs.
German mains as always make a problem from nothing.
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ZSU-39 tigris, SPAAG from ARMA 3 who happened to share name with the Hungarian tiger
Meanwhile NATO uses a literal merkava marksman
Lol that’s awesome I thought it was a real thing found in the files or something
They really push it too far. How can they add a Tiger to Italy? And even a better one than Germans have. Same BS as with the Leopard 2s or the German 30mm + Spike IFVs. Germany gets really slaughered lately, massive tech giveaway.
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actually the track made somewhat a huge diferent, atleast with tiger own ammo, the difference between guarantee penetration and 50/50 penetration (well in protection analysis its always non pen tough)
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Yes, it helps at certain angle (from 33 to 38 °), but it isn’t like another Tiger can’t kill it even in this situation. I won’t call it a huge difference, but ok.
PS anyway I think it’s better to make suggestions with photos if you want to get some similar configuration for a German E.
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The most important difference is that it nullfies M62 from US 76 and base round from Russian 85mm when angled well, which accounts for the US, Japan, USSR, Sweden(Finnish T34) and Chinas main medium/heavy at the BR. M36, which accounts for the antitank potential of the US, China and Japan and its base 90mm APHE will also have to think twice.
It is still useless against the 17 pounder and HEAT-FS, as well as 122mm or US Long 90mm but come on, who plays Britain?(I do)
Edit: I forgot about the French 75mm but the French speaking and heat launching bush still goes thru ww2 relic like a knife thru butter
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Make your point clear, you sure confused everybody there.
In the defence of the developers., People cried out for the Hungarian Tiger or a heavy Italian tank. People cry out for premiums to be different to normal vehicles. Gaijin Devs can’t win somedays.
I was trying to find if the track do actually make a difference and where it was documented have no view either way because I have nothing to base a view on currently. Wondering on what screen the info is on as I seem to have missed it.