Grumman F-14D Super Tomcat - End of a Legendary Era

Would be funny to see if theoretically aviable F-110-GE-429 would be here

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It only shows the f18 but at the same time it doesn’t say only for the f18 anywhere in their I think they left out the f14 because they have already cancelled the program as that file was made in 2001 and like marvin group came out in 2016 saying it was designed for f14 and f18

Q.E.D.

At this point it’s not even likely to come before US AESA anyway unfortunately.

And it can pretty much be looked at as the F-15C/E radar with moderately longer range, but those are both considerably underperforming in that regard anyway.

Which don’t exist in-game

That is stretching reality far beyond what can be expected for AIM-120s. I would argue ACIMD/AIM-152 are more realistic than 9X for 14D

Retired too early

Nope, was never even an integration goal due to the F/A-18 already covering that role.

I think you might be right, but I have some hope that it’ll come by mid-2025.

It basically is the F-15E’s AN/APG-70 Radar mixed with the AWG-9s power, but instead of the processing power being used for AtG roles, it’s used to reduce notch susceptibility and long-range detection.

It will soon enough. Too many later planes rely on it.

Well, all Aim-9M launchers are compatible with the Aim-9X, so it’s not that far-fetched. Aim-152 is the real reality stretcher. It would be nice to have, but there’s zero chance.

Doesn’t matter. It was an upgrade to the bomb itself and required no software changes on the aircraft. If the aircraft can laze and is compatible with the JDAM, it can use the LJDAM.

This one was a stretch I must admit.

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Launcher compatibility =/= weapons integration

Integration means carriage, jettison, and launch flight testing. You can’t even prove a 9X was hung as a mockup, let alone any of that.

I’m well aware of what it does. I’m saying the APG-70 already significantly underperforms in both maximum detection and max track range. I see no reason to assume they would model the APG-71 as anything other than a slight(5-10%) increase in those aspects. The IRST being unquestionably an IRST is frankly more important given the devs current stance on sensor fusion.

It does matter.

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You don’t need integration. Aim-9Xs are backward compatible with planes that support the Aim-9M. The Aim-9X was in service at the time of the F-14D.

I think you’re misunderstanding. It’s not a derivative of the APG-70. It’s an evolution of the AWG-9. It shares the most commonality with the -70, but it’s not a variant.

The one misunderstanding things here is you.

well then? Explain how I’m misunderstanding.

You take the brains(computers) of the APG-70, the antenna of the APG-70(scaled up) and the digitization of the APG-70 then pair it to the power supply used by the AWG-9. yes, it’s definitely not a derivative. It definitely shares more in common with an analog radar…

Wdym “q.e.d” like it needed to be demonstrated?

As I just said, it’s the AWG-9, just digitalized.

You can say that about any radar’s antenna with the way you’re using it.

I said it has more commonality with the APG-70. However, it’s not based on the APG-70.

Also isn’t the awg9 X band?

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You have no idea what you’re talking about

Well where are the sources to prove what you’re talking about? Can’t just say something and not prove at least one source

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That literally goes the exact same for what he is saying you realize?

The difference is we know the APG-71 uses the components and specifically the computers from the APG-70 which is what a make a radar a radar, genius

Still no source. And no I don’t know everything about radars witch is why I want you give something of a source so I can see weather this facts from wiki or something more solid

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_old_pdf.cfm%3FARC_ID%3D113&ved=2ahUKEwiLvMLXwpmMAxXfIjQIHZlvAPkQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QTjMjwOdo2Ej1P8I3QFzS

I don’t much like forecast international, but it’s more than he has provided.

The APG-71 does not exist without the 85% commonality with the APG-70, and those components are what makes a radar a radar.

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EFT has a crappy radar, the Rafale is great overall and the SU30 is, both the EFT and Rafale both have the advantage of amazing missiles (which maybe the F14D will get hopefully); while also adding that the SU30 has now great missiles.

The F14 airframe is still also competitive in dogfights as I can speak from experience, managing to outmaneuver small fighters like the F16, to the newly added SU30 and it’s TVC

Let’s see if and when it gets added and we’ll see how it is only then

Ah come on. If Navy used EGBU I’d try for those instead of LJDAM, since those were around when F-14D was in service