It has glove vanes. It’s clearly visible in the photo taken from the other side (different configuration, but same place).
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In my whole hearted opinion, the F-14D would be rather DOA, even with the upgrade radar and AIM-54C+. The amraams in the 4 underbelly stations, with the double rack amraams + sidewinder would make the F-14D a fair bit viable at top tier, especially with that engine buff that one guy was talking about. Also, i feel the tech tree tomcats need somewhat of a buff to stay relevant compared to the iranian one. 9Ls for the 14A, and 9Ms, AIM-54C+ and even the AIM-7P would be appreciated for the 14B. I dont know many other upgrades for the F-14B. I think a 14B(U) existed though, i dont know what the upgrade was or if it can be applied in game, though.
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Yeah it would be DOA with the current BR situation but still would be no reason to not add it.
I mean, the SAC for the F-14D not only illustrates the glove vanes, but also specifically mentions them in the text, so that could still be an F-14D, prototype or not.
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Interesting. I haven’t seen that other photo! Thanks for sharing. I still am inclined to say it’s a D model because of the context of that photo (If I remember correctly) was that it was a showcase of the F-14D’s capabilities with the Aim-120.
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it was proved not worth the hassle so they were disabled and then welded shut around the 90s, and after the new planes started coming out of the factory without them (F14A/B/D)
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What do yall think about if they add not only the AIM-54C+ and AIM-120B to it, but also the Fakour-90
Is not realistic i know, but could be a thing, could be fun.
I still wish we never retired the Tomcat cause the moment we did, that gap still has not been truly filled. As that gap is being filled by more than 1 aerial craft. So +1
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as much as i’d love this missile on an actually good platform, instead of the tragedy that is the IRIAF, this is way too much of a strech.
at that point, might as well add the AIM-152 with some guesswork, it’d be more authentic. would be way more fun than the fakour too :)
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The Fakour 90 is a Fox 1 in reality (but not according to gaijin which chose to beleive propaganda), and is only usable on 2 of the IRIAF Tomcats nonetheless. Absolutely not usable on any US F-14 which were all retired before this missile was even created.
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Not quoite sure, i dont think they will remove the active seeker from the Phoenix and put a trash SARH seeker, unless you have any proof of it.
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Lmao. How do you know it’s a SARH? Where’s the proof?
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The AD-40A missile which is a export variant of the Fakour-90 is a active radar homing missile, what makes you think Iran would produce a inferior missile than what they export? Both the Fakour-90B and initial Fakour-90s are ARH missiles, only difference being motor.
It’s like saying the F-22A in reality is made out of wood, and saying otherwise is American propaganda lmao.
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The Fakour 90 isn’t an Aim-54+, it’s a Sedjil with Phoenix control surfaces, literally just a hawk missile that has better guidance. The Hawk is known to only be capable of pulling 15Gs (unlike ingame as seen on the Sedjil) while the Aim-54A/C are capable of pulling ~24.7Gs using dual plane pull. This simple fact is the likely reason for using said control surfaces instead of the former, as well as the capability to mount more then 2 of them by using the F-14s belly pylons.
They didn’t take out a ARH seeker, it was always a SARH seeker, they never replaced it. There’s video of the firing of the Fakour 90, and the pilots say “Fox 1”, that’s all the proof I need. Anything stating it’s a Fox 3 is possibly propaganda based on the evidence I’ve seen.
Edit: proof in message below
I want you to proof the sources.
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show the video.
This AD-40A? Where the pilot audibly says “Fox 1” in a test launch? (I’ll go find the Fakour 90 “Fox 1” video my friend referenced in a moment, if this isn’t the video itself).
This article was where it all started, as they were the first to call the legitimacy of the missiles claimed capabilities into question:
Not to mention the Fakour 90s range is overpreforming ingame, as compared to the Aim-54 it’s supposed to be slightly less overall range, which is made up for by the better kinematic at close range. Gaijin thinks it’s just better overall. It isn’t really, it’s a trade off of sorts.
Mind you gaijin still thinks the Iranian tomcats could use the R-27R1, when it’s common knowledge that the attempt to make the F-14s radar and the R-27 compatible with one another was unsuccessful. It couldn’t use the missile, yet it’s very much present ingame… that’s just gaijin for ya everyone…
I’m under the impression this is simply a glorified Hawk missile, and I understand you may believe differently, but I have serious doubts about this missiles capabilities. Iran media claimed it has 300km range… so I very much doubt it’s even ARH, I hope you now understand why/where I’m coming from in this regard. There’s quite a lack of verifiable information on this missile, which is understandable given how modern it is and the classified nature of it.
I do hear “Fox 1” so that does check out. It’s kinda weird though because it’s said here by Iranian sources that the missile has “a guidance system that enables it to hit a target independently of the launch aircraft’s radar.” Which is saying it’s an ARH missile. I think we will have to wait for more details about the missile, given that this video is obviously a recording of a test missile in testing and doesn’t represent the final product. Great find though!
(also the same article says 150km range and Mach 5 which is a lot more realistic than the 300km range)
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It’s really interesting and confusing, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a Fox 3, but I also wouldn’t put it Iran to make a really long range 1 for cost/budgetary or practical reasons. Until more information comes out, it makes sense for it to a Fox 3 ingame especially for making the IRIAF F-14A more unique. (If they do end up nerfing the Fakours, either it be range or guidance, I do hope they add the Fatir in the meantime so it remains competitive, or perhaps improving its radar, as it’s been noted to have improved ground clutter rejection capabilities iirc.)
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I’ve always said the IRIAF could get the R-73, 6 Fakour-90s, maybe some sort of flarepods or rwr buffs somehow, and send it to 13.3.