And the fox should easily kill both of these two you mention so idk why you bring it up
and the df105 and marders are?
and the df105 and marders have this?
only real downside but fox has no survivability anyway, that’s not why its very strong.
In the same way that dying to anything is on you? Sure. The Fox is an INCREDIBLY strong light tank for 7.7 though.
Not at all - KT 10.5 has a much higher chance of bouncing off an IS-3/IS-6 than the other way around. Not to mention, IS-3/IS-6 are much survivable to the numerous SPGs lobbing HE shells around that BR. I really don’t think there is a need to move any of these three vehicles, though.
Fake gaijin propaganda point they use so they don’t have to actually decompress, zero basis in reality.
As if that is not what should be strived for the most in a pvp game?
I have made literal entire spreadsheets dedicated to this as just an inspired user. The devs are capable of doing this overnight they just don’t want to.
Whatever they did recently with the BTR-80a makes 80% of hits on slightly angled armor shatter now.
I’ve never had it be so bad. Playing Uk tank don’t have that much she’ll shatter for me honestly, maybe here and there.
I’d take an XM800T over it, every single time. But you are right. Whatever happens - Fox should be below XM800T in BR.
joke tier take, is-3 is far better in grb, kt105 isnt even better than the kt88
They both have their benefits, both should be 8.0 though.
One is more anti tank, the other, anti light tank
Send a photo of its shell.
DF105 is a monster 5 second reload. The 8.0 Marder is stabilised and has thermals and an ATGM.
It’s not incredibly strong it’s good at hiding, the rounds shatter a lot more now on tanks it faces and even lighter vehicles yes it can kill but side shots. It’s strength is being small and the average war thunder players memory span.
Well, the DF105 is undertiered decently.
The marder is not stabilized. I spaded both of them.
Also, how is it fair for the enemy team, when I’m across the whole map in 15 secs, and can spawn camp? It’s not.
Engine noise doesn’t mean anything when your stationary, and the fox’s cannon is closer in stability to the xm800, than anything like the BTR or marder.
I thought it was my mistake
Oh my god. How about I send you a photo of the 88 penning everything it needs to anyway easily while having half the reload? Literally every good player understands why the kt88 is better.
No, it isn’t.
I did forget the 1a3 had this, it’s still not a difference that really matters in this case.
doesn’t help it often
Point is, Fox is not worse than these in a 7.7-8.0 context
What is so hard about sending me a photo of the shell?
What is so hard about understanding that I disagree with you that the 105’s pen or filler advantage matters? What else are you going to say about it?
TKX (P) and M1A1 are probably the best 11.3s in the game. 90A sitting just a single BR step below is a compression issue.
That being said, T-90A could go down if it loses 3BM60, otherwise not even a chance.
Loses 3bm60 in trade of what 3bm46? It still will be able to see 11.7s at 10.7
It’s cons make it good frontally, little else
Pz.Rot
251 pen, 240g HE filler.
Pz.gr.39/43
239 pen, 64g explosive mass.
Seems a bit more than a “side grade” I would much rather suffer the 5 sec reload difference, to have the increased pen, and even better he filler, likely to over pressure.
Either 3BM46 or 3BM42, but most likely the former.
At that BR it could be a slower alternative to the T-80B that offers better thermals, ammo and armor in return.
Yeah I could get behind that
