I don’t see how it’s insane, flies per the manual. Pretty mediocre at that, a side-grade to the F-14A.
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I actually do because I actually had the plane when it was first added.
These are the numbers it could sustain when first added;
For reference the F-16s all top out at around 20 degrees per second at 500kts and drop all the way down to around 15 degrees per second at 200kts. The OG Gripen FM enjoyed a 2 - 4 degree per second turn rate advantage at any give speed.
Even in its current state the F-16C does not beat the Gripen in a rate fight, and neither does the F-15.
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and the Gripen is newer then both
I don’t see how you think F-15 is a side-grade to the F-14A.
functionally it is only difference is 9ms
Please stop using this argument. It means nothing. The t14 is more modern than most of the tanks we have in game and yet I would still prefer to be sitting in a challenger rather than a t14.
Ok and? That is relevant to what exactly?
The poster claimed that 15 and 16 can beat any plane in the game in a rate fight.
The only 16 that has fighting chance against Gripen in a dogfight is the oldest one…the F-16A Block 10. And that is with the current FM and not the UFO FM that was released on patch day.
9Ms are a huge functionality advantage.
It also has better power to weight ratio, and it’s enough that it can exploit that against the F-14.
and the Gripen is newer by more then a decade with more advanced airframe i know time doesn’t always mean better but it can beat a f16 irl
If it wasn’t for the armament the performance gap is small and they’d perform similar in efficiency. Do you think with AIM-9H’s the F-15 would deserve higher than 11.7 BR? Even if you do, there is also the F-14B for comparison.
LMAO.
Holy crap this is delusional.
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I’m not disagreeing with you necessarily but use a better argument than age.
Nope not particularly. Not having all aspect IR missiles is a large handicap.
Aim-9M is massive upgrade over Aim-9H.
If F-15 had Aim-9L, it would only be 12.0 in my opinion. But against F-14A it probably still wins a duel with or without missiles.
Sure, that’s possible. I’m just thinking the F-14A would perform better for air RB at 11.7 imo, a TWS mode is hugely important to situational awareness and the radar just feels better at the moment. Perhaps that would change when they fix the F-15s but right now I feel it’s a direct side-grade to the F-14A when ordnance isn’t considered. Of course, when the Phoenix is buffed to it’s correct performance it will again be a side-grade to the F-15.
Although I think the f14 is great, I would not put it in The same league as the f15. For the most part it is simply better than the f14, especially with how much energy it retains. The lack of TWS is big but really isn’t necessary as most of the time I simply use normal pd modes or acm mode for locks as it’s just more reliable and less finicky.
Most important part is how you want to play. Atleast for me, i play the F-14 when i’m lazy. I get 2-3 kills a match just by lobbing a few missiles at the start of the match and then rearming to see what i’m gonna do. With the f-15 i have to play very actively and use effort to not die. Two different planes, two different playstyles.