It changes nothing cause it faces the same aircraft just won’t face Phantom FG1s.
If all 12.3s moved to 12.7 and all 12s moved to 12.3. Then it would be a major buff for the 11.3s but have no impact on any of the 12s or 12.3s except the fact they would get less free kills per match.
If only the Gripen moved to 12.7, then it would change nothing for the 11.3s and whilst all other 12.3s would continue to see 11.3s for those free kills, the Gripen would not and it would only see games with a higher % of 12.3s, which would in-effect, nerf it. That is also not taking into account the future. Assuming we see more 12.7s and 13s added soon, then the Gripen would face these aircraft far more often than the other current 12.3s. Which would be a long term major nerf.
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Yeah no one’s saying only Gripen.
So not sure why anyone would speak about that.
the next Swedish JAS39C will be the same FM
Nice work Gaijin
welcome to British tax party
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the worst thing is, gripen is not even that big of a problem after nerfs… its super limited in weapons… unreliable gun with what, 4-5 seconds of fire. 6x 9M thats not even performing correctly, vibrating, missing IRCCM features? You gotta work for kills in it, position yourself, aim with your gun, spend more ammo to kill a plane than other guns. Then there is flanker. most missiles, all of them are best top tier missiles available. Fast jet on deck, can run away from both 15 or gripen. its nose pointing ability until it loses all speed is INSANE.
Then F15A… well, this one is F***ed by sparrow performance but if it gets resolve, again, way easier to get kill with it + M61 with tons of ammo.
What goes for gripen is low speed handling and tons of CMs while having nice energy retention at low fuel. I can already see them nerfing fuel consumption to force people running 20 mins of internal to limit 3-6min gripens murdering US/USSR mains.
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First game I had stock I managed to come out with 3 kills in a 1 vs 6 while facing a mig 29g, f16c, f15a and 2 smts and an f16adv. It reminds me of the ariete with how you can basically stay clear of the enemy guns for the most part but getting shots in is difficult.
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Its highly survivable, thats the skill issue of 99,8% of playerbase. They cant hit, if they cant hit with missile from 3km or headon, barely anyone can aim at top tier with one offset gun. Due to huge ammount of flares and majority knowing absolutely nothing about top tier missiles, gripen can survive A LOT. That gives it huge KD and WR. A lot of players are wasting time shooting missiles at it from range that could be used on something with less CMs and smaller chance of being flared. They all shoot you, you flare it and then they are without weapons to deal with your team… booom hight WR.
Meanwhile you need to close in with R73 from rear, lock with radar and wait for a hole in automatic dispense to launch R73 from sub 1 km. Hes dead.
I do have large KD and WR on it but kills per game are around same number of other top tier jets.
ok i agree here but dont do the gun like that.
IMO its the most consistent gun i’ve ever used. very easy to aim and does loads of damage. somehow i’ve amassed an unnecessarily high amount of gun kills in the tornado IDS(ASSTA1) of all vehicles and you know how that turns.
the ammo is restrictive but thats how it is with newer jets. they’re not built for these what feels like 1000v1000 games
Gaijin has specifically singled out the Gripen has potentially being stronger than the other 12.3s and possibly needing to move up to 12.7. No mention was made of the F-15. Su-27, 4K, Mig-29, 2Ks or F-16C within that post. Only the Gripen
In the 1990s, Sweden designed an F-16 with close-coupled canard
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Seriously ?? Gaijin ?
its extremely inconsistent, sometimes it tears off a wing and then you “crit” someone into the face in headon doing absolutely nothing. russian 30mm or vulcan are years ahead. From todays F1C session, even defa is more consistent in nuking planes.
It wrecks F16s A now, you can energy trap them all day at low speed (you rate better than then in every way) and you have less drag than they do… I don’t know what’s the gripen supposed to be but from my testing it’s the best plane in dogfight, even the F15A isn’t as good
F15A shouldnt be as good period :D
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Agreed
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The first nerf already made it unfun and thus unplayable.
Sucks being a Sweden main and waiting years for this plane only to have it last less than a week.
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From a Brit:
Sorry, Gaijin never let us having anything good and it seems Sweden has gotten second-hand britian tax. Expect more nerfs in coming days, we are still competitive and thats against the ToS
how you lose any fight to a Tornado GR.1 is beyond me. At least with the F.3 you could actually be outranged.
Player stats should not be relied on to balance an aircraft.
In a head on as well with 6 of the best head-on missiles in the game :D
At that point he must’ve been afk or something. Maybe he forgot his binds?
How do you lose to a Tornado GR.1, you don’t even have to take the headon goddamnit.
He fired 3-4 missiles at me, I just managed to use multi-pathing, but how he let a Aim-9L hit in a headon, whilst I had ACM lock, is beyond me.