Gripen might be the best dogfighter with the AOA limiter off and for some reason gaijin gave the US no jet actually capable of dogfighting the gripen

There is very good reason to believe F-22 has much better supersonic manueverability. But in between supersonic and low speed, Rafale beats the F-22

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Didn’t the F-22 beat Rafales as well?

And anyways, I said the F-22 would do well in a dogfight, better than any current US jet in-game, which still holds true

Yeah, I think Raptor had six Rafael kills, btw I’m going to delete it I don’t want to start a war.

F-18 is literally a Gripen equivalent.

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Only in BVR

shoulda bought a eurocanard then america

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???

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really? wasnt the excercise dogfights?

Both iirc.

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If you wanted to dogfight why did you grind out the country that keeps trying to remove the gun from planes in favor of radar missiles?

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you guys bought the harrier so european aircraft purchases arent off the table.

OP is whining about not having a good enough dogfighter to keep up with an eurocanard when the only things that can are other eurocanards

F-22 can keep up, sure its lost to them but im also fairly sure its at least beaten typhoons in dogfights before

keep up as in bareley be able to fight for its damn life because its a BVR fighter maybe

Bro i swear these post have gotta be like a false flag operation against us mains cause who comes up with this shit.

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Watching 2 different nation mains desperately fighting over which country has the more advanced stick irl will never not be funny. It’s just too cute.

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You forgot the CV90 and ABBA ;)

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ABBA is unfortunately a bit too “classics” to be widely known anymore. I’m sure even Basshunter might be phasing out of recent memories, maybe many young folks will still recognise Avicii at the club?

aging

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rafale otw to beat f22 which has higher TWR and TVC

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Kid named dodging an AIM-9J with no flares