Gripen might be the best dogfighter with the AOA limiter off and for some reason gaijin gave the US no jet actually capable of dogfighting the gripen

Dev Server "Hornet's Sting" General Discussion - Dev Server
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Why do they need something to be able to dogfight?
Part of the air modes is knowing your own and the enemies’ strengths and weaknesses.

If you are inferior in a dogfight, don’t dogfight.

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God I love US mains

You sound like the type of person who would turn with a spitfire or zero with a P-47 rather than playing to it’s strengths and then go complain that it’s unfair and they should buff it so it can

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Then you will need to submit a bug report with sources confirming that US jets can out-dogfight a Gripen, Typhoon, Rafale, etc.

But as far as I am aware. The US doesnt operate a delta-Canard

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*sad F-16XL noises *
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I see no Canards!!! :P

But yeah, probably would take that to have something that can match the turn performance

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uh right, i didnt saw the canard part, nvm

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F-22 can do well in a dogfight but ofc we aren’t allowed that until at least December

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Dawg, the Gryffon is the best 4.5 gen Dogfighter, arguably in the entire world. What would you expect? Sweden is known for like, two massive, no, three massive, no four massive things; meatballs, caramelldansen, pewdiepie, and world class fighter jets.

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F-22 has thrust vectoring in short range, and even then every advantage it had is gone.

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There is very good reason to believe F-22 has much better supersonic manueverability. But in between supersonic and low speed, Rafale beats the F-22

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Didn’t the F-22 beat Rafales as well?

And anyways, I said the F-22 would do well in a dogfight, better than any current US jet in-game, which still holds true

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Yeah, I think Raptor had six Rafael kills, btw I’m going to delete it I don’t want to start a war.

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F-18 is literally a Gripen equivalent.

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Only in BVR

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shoulda bought a eurocanard then america

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???

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really? wasnt the excercise dogfights?

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Both iirc.

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If you wanted to dogfight why did you grind out the country that keeps trying to remove the gun from planes in favor of radar missiles?

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you guys bought the harrier so european aircraft purchases arent off the table.

OP is whining about not having a good enough dogfighter to keep up with an eurocanard when the only things that can are other eurocanards