its “only” 3 months
I like going back into old chats and seeing what had changed, been predicted, or just straight up been false
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My gripen D prediction failed but my F-39 idea may hold true
Unlikely F-39 would be rank 9 not 8
Your best bet it to hope for MS20
Yes, the F-39 would be a rank 9 and not a rank 8 but help is help. The M-346 is coming soon which may be good, and i can only hope for the romanian migs too. The F-39 may be able to come with derbies to separate it from the swedish one, but if they add that then they’d need to give stuff to sweden to make their tree non redundant. Maybe in a perfect world. We will see what happens
Also gaijin is done adding gripen Cs to the game the MS20 isn’t coming
And again why does Italy need a Brazilian F-39 again?
Also if you want one so bad again why not ask Smin if it’s possible, he does occasionally answer if a nation is eligible for a vehicle from a non subnation. Besides I Italy is far from needing another sub tree to fill it’s gaps.
Just for fluff to help it’s content levels. You cannot deny Italy has massive air vehicle issues looking at their rank 8 selection and bomber line. You dont get many options at rank 8, and not many of those options are even considered good vehicles. I won’t say the brazilian F-39 is as needed as something like turkey would be to help with the low count of vehicles in rank 8, but the brazilian F-39 with maybe a different loadout than the swedish gripen E would just be nice to have. Its kinda like the UK’s super hornet. Did they need it now? No. But they still got one, and it’s just nice to have. Also I did not know that I will try asking Smin
Difference is the UK has AU and CAN as a mixed subtree.
Again Brazil is not the same. Additionally why should Italy get 4 full subtrees plus more? I mean how greedy can you guys be lol.
You want Italy to have Hungary, Romania, Brazil and Turkey?
Besides the F-39 doesn’t have a different loadout than the swedish Gripen so it wouldn’t be any different. Besides as it stands now gaijin refuses to fix or change the swedish Gripen E so no reason the F-39 can’t be added to Sweden to fill it’s TT gap when the Gripen E goes up in BR when it gets Meteor.
Yeah but UK’s subtrees offer more than italy’s. Alot more. That’s not exactly fair to italy especially when considering UK as of now also has more subtrees than italy does. So UK has more subtrees that offer more vehicles. Romania quite literally doesnt give much as they have those mig 21s and the F-16AM and hungary is bone dry when it comes to vehicles, while UK’s subtrees have much more to give (india). Adding the F-39 to sweden is plausible but in my opinion shouldn’t as that gripen gap can be filled by the gripen F/Maritime whilst italy can get the F-39. As told though, sweden would need help too as the F-39 in italy would make sweden’s gripen E rather redundant. Another France/israel air situation with the M2k/rafale. So adding the F-39 to italy imo can be done but should be done properly to avoid harming sweden’s viability
Not fair to Italy?
Do you actually hear yourself? How is that going to be a argument but then you scream Italy needs the Gripen E more than sweden? Like what? Seriously swedens air tree is done and yet your argument is Italy suffers?
Sweden literally has F-35 that’s it and yet you can get numerous other vehicles and yet it’s never enough talk about greedy lmao.
You argue uniqueness and variety and cry Italy isn’t treated fairly get in line lol, Italy isn’t the worst tree. You’re a hypocrite who can’t learn to care about anything other then their main tree.
Also the maritime doesn’t exist a two seater is just worse overall so you want Sweden to have the worst version of their own equipment while Italy gets a vehicle they have no ties to.
Guess someone forgot Brazil and Swedens Tues with manufacturer arms and equipment again why does Italy get a vehicle they didn’t make?
Next you’re gonna say US doesn’t need F22 because Italy needs it more. Thats how outrageous your takes are. You’re not interested in actually looking at factual details or speaking logically, you’re a child throwing a tantrum about Italy being treated unfairly when you are forced to grind a different nation.
Not once have you bothered talking or making rational decisions you simply divert the conversation back to waah Italy is bad give everyone’s equipment to us and I dc if your nation is bad or has nothing else.
Seriously grow up
Holy moly dude I try to keep my patience with you. You seriously didnt read what I said. In my previous response I told you they should update sweden if they give italy the gripen E, to make sweden’s rank 9 not redundant. Do you even read the messages i send? Do you read the messages you reply to? This isn’t the first time i have told you to read what I say, because the things you point out about what I say have already been remedied in a previous message. I dont even main italy! I’ve told you this too! I play china france and israel!!! I have every air tree but germany and many ground trees, why the hell would I be arguing from a biased standpoint. If I simply wanted to use a gripen E I’d use the one i have in sweden!!! And you wanna talk about rational decisions??? Why should italy get a vehicle they dont make??? I dont know man, why does EVERY COUNTRY IN THE GAME HAVE A VEHICLE THEY DONT MAKE??? Italy has ties to brazil, that IN MY OPINION warrant a subtree, but you’d know that already if you actually ever read what I tell you! You have no idea what metrics I have used to judge italy’s air tree and deem it bad, and it seems like you dont even know how subtree/fill in additions even work! But you know what the worst part is? If you ever read what I tell you then you’d know I have answered everything in your rebuttal before. Please read and evaluate what I tell you before typing responses.
Literally just a long paragraph cope post where you literally again just admit that you don’t actually care, your suggestions use literally the smallest amount of brain power lol, you so biased that you couldn’t bother to spend more than 1 minute and realize your suggestion literally makes Sweden air useless to find as they lose their only unique vehicle for top tier.
This is what we need less of, it would be like Japan losing the F2 or the US getting their F22 given to the Brits cause they looked at it.
You spend every single post literally telling everyone how much you don’t care about anyone else but yourself lmao.
Talking sense to you is pointless because you won’t care anyways. You just revert back to Italy suffers who cares about anyone else
Again unlikely we would get another hornet. More likely to see EA-18 come fairly soon for someone
This is like talking to a wall. You have zero idea what you are even addressing. You didnt even read what I just said and this is proof of that. “you so biased that you couldn’t bother to spend more than 1 minute and realize your suggestion literally makes Sweden air useless to find as they lose their only unique vehicle for top tier.” Not like I have addressed this in multiple previous responses. You’d know if you ever read any of them. But you dont read you just type! “revert back to italy suffers who cares about anyone else.” Gosh why would i talk about italy in an italy based thread. Why would I do that??? Not like this thread is about italy or anything. You actually read nothing, and it’s very funny. I know other air trees like germany and sweden aren’t in good spots either, but not only have I addressed the sweden air problems because we are discussing a vehicle of swedish origin, but this is also an italian thread. But you wont have any proper responses to this message, because you dont read any of them!
@B0NEDOCTOR let’s just agree to disagree, we are getting no where and we have better things to do with our respective time rather than arguing with each other and just going back and fourth for hours on end.
I can respect this