Gripen E for italy?

at that time, wasnt the only practical difference between swedish JAS39A and the SA JAS39C the lack of HMS, which the swedish JAS39A got for the time of live release?

since the SA JAS39C only recieved ARHs with the release of swedish 39C?

I would count on the Gripen E appearing on the Japanese TT because of Thailand first before it appears in Italy since compared to Brazil, Thailand is a full subtree of Japan. Of course that will only happen after the Gripen E has been delivered to Thailand.

Them relasing the C and A at the same time also inadvertently permanently screwed the C and A up as neither of them in game are real and are rather abominations put together for what gaijin wants.

Again gaijin should never have released the C and A at the same time because they couldn’t handle them and still cant correct them. A shouldve been added 2 months prior when the F16C came in then in December the C could’ve gone to both Sweden and Britain. I could list you every problem brought on by releasing the A at the same time but theres no real point since its been talked to death.

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Not that crazy to expect the Gripen E to go to Japan first because gaijin decides to add them a 14.0 which inadvertently screws the Gripen E over forever because they didn’t bother adding it with its EW systems, sweden would then wait 6 months since gaijin would say they already got 2 14.0’s back to back despite one being 13.7 material and the other being some mid hornet with BOL

im not that familiar with issue, you can go on.

no aircraft in the game has its EW suite, this issue wouldnt be unique to the Gripen E unless gaijin decides to add it to everyone BUT gripen E.

Gripen C lacks its additional middle pylon for bombs was bug reported on the dev when it first came.

You had a plethora of people who have no idea what they are bug reporting and had the SAAF gripen using MS20 documents for bug reports despite SAAF never having the money to buy the MS20 upgrade.

Gripens not being identified by their MS. // Community Bug Reporting System

The Gripen A WAS lighter than the C on release but nerfed to match the C in weight despite that being incorrect. It lacked the internal countermeasures increase and refueling probe.

Gripen A is missing NCTR on its hud because they never do anything with it anymore and only the C, (minor gripe but its a problem because the vehicle doesn’t get worked on ever)

Gripen C’s are all sorts of wrong from their radar to their avionics, they use the MS17 radar from the A but Necronomica believes it may be the MK. III radar which is wrong for the Gripen A

All Gripen C’s have GBU-39 which is wrong for SAAF as they again didn’t buy MS20 which means their Gripen cant use GBU-39 but as stated by smin the devs are doing whatever they want.

All Gripens are missing their MAW’s pod, would give them performance similar to the EFT’s MAW’s.

Gripens are missing most of their correct armaments (minor gripe, but it doesn’t really matter since gaijin gave the SAAF gripen the fake loadouts first with them having AGM65 B they never used but people only ever mention sweden…)

Voice warning is also missing but also a minor gripe

Theres more im missing but im not gonna keep writing lol, i don’t have every doc on my ohone to support each claim vs my PC

Standard yearly common swedish L for air, nothing new tbh

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dont have to, im not here to prove you wrong.

Its not just about you, i try to keep up with any claims i make, if im wrong im wrong ill accept it, not like im infallible, regardless if i dont try to keep up my credibility it makes my voice less valid when trying to add to a topic. Call it personal respect i guess

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i don’t see why italy/japan wouldn’t get the e. japan through thailand es and italy thru brazil es. only reason i can see why they dont add it is that italy has eurofighter but italy had the gripen c b4 eurofighter and they still added euro so like

Italy has the EFT, they dont lack a 4.5 gen equivalent like Japan does. Additionally brazil shouldn’t become a sub of Italy it makes no sense.

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im pretty sure italy has some brazilian vehicles already, so they’re the prime canidate to get future brazilian stuff

They have Brazilian vehicles because they’re either Italian vehicles originally or were co developers. Im talking about the ghibli here since i dont remember other Brazilian vehicles but that logic that they would get Brazilian vehicles as a new addition makes about as much sense as the Netherlands being a swedish subtree. Its doesn’t make sense because thats not how it works.

Additionally Italy has a full 5 line air tree they dont need a new sub nation, Hungary and Romania fill up everything they need. Sweden still lacks a 5th line even with a sub tree. (Not saying Brazil for sweden, makes no sense either. Brazil for a latin america tt makes far more sense.)

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Romania has only the OSA in the tech tree. If Romania was implemented, we would have the Abrams

It had a better engine, if it didn’t, it was supposed to, and the HMD, I guess ARH missiles were added a bit later than I remember, I always remembered them being added before the JAS39C for Sweden for some reason.

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arent you confusing that with the ARH beta test? SA Gripen got to participate with darters in that one but no swedish planes.

fair enough.

theres single brazilian aircraft in the game, AMX, a plane they codeveloped with Italy.

brazilian AMX is in the same situation as F-14 IRIAF and Kfir C10.

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They have a few others via premiums and older event vehicles

this here dosent exist?
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why would italy need the abrams?

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That’s Hungary, genius. While I too hate the Dictate of Trianon, unfortunately Romania exists outside of Hungary. The Romanian “tech tree” has a bunch of prop plane premiums, the OSA, and the MiG 29 Sniper premium.