I dont have the gripens and I am grinding sweden air just for them since i already have the viggens and the draken. Does the gripen still hold up ? Whats the future of sweden air ?
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Grippen A will never see anything but Eurofighters, while your best defence is AIM 9Ms.
Grippen C is the exact same thing, except now you get knock-off AIM 120s.
Hornet #1 is the weakest 14.0, and the only reason to research it is to get to the second Hornet
Hornet #2 should have been in the game first, there was zero reason for us to wait half a year just to get CAS.
Grippens are great in 1v1s, but good luck playing them in Pubs.
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Gripen A is okay C is better than the current hornet but worthless after the next hornet is added, TT wise go play Japan or Italy as they have more to offer and have the Gripen E, Thailand for Japan and possibly Brazil for Italy
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If this gets fixed, the Gripens will be in a far healthier place.
but they’ve got a lot of issues left to be fixed and Gaijin doesnt seem interested in doing so
Not really their mobility is entirely trash, they lack correct radar, they lack their correct weapons and they lack the number of weapons present on some 13.3, its a pretty much dead TT air wise until all of these are fixed and new selections of jets are added. You want sweden air go play Germany and wait for Austria, sweden will have 2 unique jets and thats it. You want top tier sweden go play literally any nation with a Gripen. You actually get plenty of other jets to play from instead of just the Gripen and you’ll actually have a future air tree to look forward to.
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Maybe only Sweden should recieve later JAS-39 versions for now. For example the Brazilian JAS-39E is some kind of absurd weapons like Spice bombs, IRIS-T air-to-air and the MBDA Meteor, also counting the BK-27 which is an absurd of a cannon.
I think Italy is doing fine with one of the best planes available for top tier the F-2000A and maybe with the newer F/A-18 MLU 2 should put Sweden in pair with others and reducing the chances of a newer JAS-39 to the Swedish tech tree.
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Now that will upset people, ive been in arguments with Italians, US (since they want Brazil also) and some Japanese players. If the E comes they need to have it to because sweden air is biased an unfair (mainly quoting the Italians and US)
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Doubt, that its gonna fix the problems especially if gaijin gives BOL to the US. Again why grind sweden when all its aircraft can and will be found on other nations. Currently BOL is the only reqson to get the Finnish Hornet but at the same time its a worthless hornet for CAS compared to the other 14.0 (minus the other Finnish hornet lol)
That is worthless lol
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I started playing sweden for draken. Took a break came back there was the viggen. Viggen got powercreeped before i got it. And then the gripen got powercreeped before i got it. Fuck my life why do i take breaks from this godforsaken game i miss everything. Sweden 8.7 ground also got nerfed the week before i got its main vehicle t55m lmfao. I am going back and forth on grinding either france or ussr both ground and air. Which one should i go for ? I have wanted to grind france even before the whole ass rafale thing and ussr is always a good pick idk tho
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USSR, it rarely sees nerfs and its got a large selection of fun vehicles the BMP’s are some of the strongest at their BR’s and the heavies are kinda eh past 4.7 imo, France is good but you need to know maps and they get screewed by BR changes a lot. Sweden 8.0 is solid and unless you have premiums its the only viable BR until 10.0 sweden is a good nation at top tier and since thats the only thing that matters people scream its the best tree in game. I like sweden since it has my home nations CV90 and the drakens but i will never recommend sweden unless i want them to experience CBT, mainly referring to air in this case, sweden is held up as the best nation because of 3 leopards which if thats the gold standard for the nation being made up of garbage gimmick vehicles then i guess id rather the leos be removed since idc about them. Im sorry you grinded sweden and didn’t get to enjoy the vehicles when they were good but i can promise you Russia is an infinitely less frustrating choice than France is going forward.
Air wise France is CBT for a bit but the Mirage is solid and the Rafale will only get stronger tbh
I get plenty of downtiers at 13.0 and even the uptiers weren’t that difficult in something like F-16A (Belgium) if you just play smart and don’t try to be super aggressive early game.
They are just… 120s? Except on UK gripen.
mfw we went like almost 2 years with gimped mig29 and nerfed su27 meta
(we still have gimped mig29 they just buffed su27 to be competitive)
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talks about Sweden
“What about UK?”
Please “AllNationEnjoyer” harass someone else.
Also cool, you get some downtiers. I too get one downtier every ten matches too. Unfortunately majority of the time I get higher BRs unless I wait for all the kiddos to get home from school and are using the premium F-18s and Netz.
Harass?
I get like 40-50% downtiers at 13.0…
You must pay the snail. I see nothing but AIM 120 spam the second I step foot in 12.7, with like one match of 12.0 when I’m about to go do something else
I can’t lie, that whole Latin American tech tree suggestion moved a lot of people in favor and I see Brazil as a potential part of Italy if it never came to the game as a sole tech tree that could house other latin american countries;
But since Italy has a plane more than enough to compete in the current Meta, I don’t see a reason to put more another plane. I mean, every nation has at least one capable vehicle for its battle rating, the F-2000A with all its own issues still can hold Italy as a competitive nation in the current Meta.
Regarding Japan, I believe it will suit best as Japan recieving a proper battle rating 14.0 airplane. At the start I thought the F-2A were going to be placed at battle rating 14.0 and actually put Japan in the current Meta but it doesn’t seems to be the case.
As you pointed out, the benefit of the F/A-18 MLU 2 being the BOL, I’m totally in favor of the JAS-39E for Sweden and maybe for Japan as part of Thailand (which, correct me if I’m wrong, it’s only planned) if Gaijin themselves keep this nerf for BOL countermeasures at least put a competitive plane in a domestic platform.
Tbf ive been an avid fan of the Su-27 but i wouldn’t have called it bad on launch, a missile barge yes but definitely not terrible imo.
Mig 29 was a different story though i agree
its launch patch was fine, it was all the patches that followed where it became increasingly power crept with a really fat unfun FM
Maybe i just didn’t notice it then idk, its my most played 13.0 vehicle and im close to the Su-33 but i dont remember it getting worse but again its probably just my memory being bad
do you not remember old su27 fm