@Smin1080p_WT
Hey,
Why does the leo2Hel only have Gen1 Thermals?
It is Clearly missing the Ophelios Thermals.
Is that going to change?
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I despise starfighters and don’t want another to grind but yeah, where the fuck?
yeah i was also wondering. but they will fix it ;-)
Surprised we didn’t get the Greek Magister too
Maybe next update
ps.: i did make an bug report.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/KlmvKhHjM5tJ
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Any chance for final discount for the AH-64A (GR) before the removal, like the 30% for Premium Ho-Ri?
Well done
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Time to be drip fed every single update, yippee!
Chinese water torture.
Honestly I don’t think it’s a good thing for the game espicially for the air tree because it delete all of the uniqueness of the french air tree, I don’t mind the the mirage but I don’t think the rafale shouldn’t be add. As a fellow french patriot and main it make me kinda sad but on the other and I think the addition of the greek tec tree is a good thing
I think Gaijin should stop focusing so much on putting copy and paste vehicles in premium version to collect coins and start investing in good servers, all events are the same, you can’t play because of the big PL (lost package) and The tall ping is practically unplayable, this mainly for Latam players let’s see if you start improving the game’s infrastructure, if you really read your community.
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French TT had the Rafale for almost 2 years now, no other country kept there top tier stuff in there own TT for so long. Be happy that it didn’t happen 1 year ago it was something inevitable no matter if it was the Greek one or the Indian or the Indonesian.
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Premiums that are vismods of domestic TT designs aren’t a problem (Clickbait, 2a4 btl 123, Overlord pack, etc)
It’s a relatively low effort way for the devs to generate revenue without paywalling content, so I’m all for it
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@Smin1080p_WT Devs, if you are reading this please, do not put “Leopard band-aid” over Israeli tree and instead fix the Merkava series, there are bug reports going back 4 years on how the armor values are too low and mislabeled, it lacks it’s unique features like LAHAT launching capability and spall liners which have more than enough evidence/information to be implemented, for a modern top tier tank that is currently in service irl it heavily underperforms, to say the least. It is good that Greece is getting representation but it must not be made an excuse to continue to mistreat Israeli designs. It’s also important to mention that for a nation that is famous for it’s air defenses it is currently has the worst top tier SPAA capabilities. There is plenty of stuff to add to Israel, please do not abandon it once again after this.
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That is what I was referring to mostly.
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I only see us getting a fixed one if they add a new one to spam report.
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Cool - but, why not any of the vehicles before then? Why are we still putting all of these vehicles like the SB2C-5 in Rank 4 when in other trees the literal same vehicles are Rank 3, let alone the general BR range of 3.7-4.7 with a little swing between some 3.3’s and 5.0’s as well, least on the Arcade side.
You have M.B. 151 and Arado Ar 196 in game that were used by the RHAF pre-early WWII, so those are easy copy/paste options. Also on likely lower BR you have the PZL P.24 in at least 2 official variants (F and G) as well as the F’s after they had to be rearmed with Colt-Browning 7.7 mm MG’s. The period operating in exile where they used Blenheim’s, Hurricanes, and Spitfires - as well as later versions of Spitfires including IX (which yes is already in the Israeli tree) and the XVI (which isn’t) alongside the SB2C’s - all of which are also more or less copy-paste vehicles, which while maybe not ideal and likely to cause complaints from some, would at least establish with all those at least something that can line up so that the lines can mostly start at Rank 1 or 2 even and progress to and through 3 and while looking for other nations or domestic options to add.
Starting at Rank 4, with 0 EXP crews, is not tenable, seriously.
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Except that the ‘copy and paste’ premiums - are how they get the money, to do things like upgrade their servers.
To drastically simplify things, any new aircraft added from the game ground up requires research, possibly visiting static displays or the like when possible, etc to get the information and all they need on the base level. It then requires all the modeling, coding, testing, and technical stuff that gets it physically in-game and released. Not factoring other costs (power, rent, travel, etc) your already talking about 1000s of work hours, if not 10,000’s. Meaning you have to sell a lot of them before you even hit the break even, let alone profit. The copy paste on the other hand, that might be in the 100’s of hours at most depending on how long the coding, visual model or skin tweaks, etc take. At which point - if it sells the same amount, makes way more profit, and therefore increases funds available to add new things to the tech tree, upgrade servers, work on upgrading the game engine, maps, etc.
As much as people wanna rip on Copy/Paste premiums in particular, they are the easier way to make bank to fund all the other stuff we ask for.
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The thing with the Greek vehicles is that if you search about them they are different and in what affects the game. Weapons electronics etc. So you can easily go search instead of just be in a forum crying CnP, you’ll that they are they own variants…
But the problem is that GJ chooses to CnP and makes them unrealistic on occasions (A-7H is not an E and Greece never had AGM-45s, neither ANY of those planes were wired/coded etc on that, also A-7H never had LANA, it was strictly a day bomber/CAS , even the AIM-9s…Greece never used naval Sidewinders on A-7s -any of them- they used 9P variants and 9L , they are not wired for them…)
M2K-5Mk2 has better radar (at least it’s referenced in the game) , where is the things that make it Mk2 though? Scalp EG? Ok , i get it you don’t want any France/UK or whatever (because they produce and use the weapon as well) to get that because you want your Russian/Soviet BS to throw 200km imaginary missiles that don’t even exist, BUT AFDS ??? Especially in Nuke thunder with bases/buildings etc…it would be a fine fit (and many planes use it). And Exocet. Those differences do affect the game and make the vehicle different than M2K-5F for example. The weapons aren’t in game? Ok bring them…
I mean , they have the option not to CnP , they choose to CnP instead and even mess the things badly aka they don’t use armament the planes had but give them things they never even wired for and couldn’t even use.
By GJ F-14D couldn’t use AMRAAM (true) , but the Greek M2K MK2 could use ARMAT…which RDY-2 and its fire control and everything related wasn’t even able to use because the missile is too old. It can’t use it even in theory…It’s like saying an F-16ADF can use AIM-7C.
If M2K MK2 in game uses ARMAT and you tell us about F-14D that "it never used them " for 120s , it’s not promoting realism , it’s not about balance… It’s straight idiocy and you are bad at your job.
You contradict yourselves , in the name of copy paste … while you could bring of the most unique variants of production planes and shut up mouths.
Aka…you are stupid , that’s what you are!
Sorry i get angry, but…
I mean… it’s 2-3 things. It’s not much work… You just implement X weapon and delete Y weapon from the list. I mean, are you so much indifferent about your own game anymore?
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Could we please stop with the never-ending mindless adding of new vehicles?
It’s getting totally out of hand. The current tech tree setup is not designed to handle it!