I sometimes wonder if Gajjin hates Israel because its whole situation is so geopolitically contentious
they are cooking a Korean tech tree
Greece : where?
AIR FORCE:
Rafale EG/DG (C F.3R /D F.3R) ?
Mirage F.1?
Mirage 2000EG/BG (2000C equivalent)?
Mirage 2000EGM/BGM (2000-5 equivalent)?
Alongside some US aircrafts : F-102 / F-84F / F-86 / F-104 / F-5 / A-7 Corsairs / F-4E PI2000 /F-16C/D /F-35A
and Supermarine Spitfires after the WWII
Trainners are italian or US made
All SAM systems are USA/Russian/European made
GROUND FORCE:
MBT are Germans or US made
IFV: Germans
APC: Homemade/US made
Mobile Mortars: US Made
ATGM Carrier : Most are US made
rest of Vehicules are USA, Canadian, Russian, German or French made (or homemade for some), lighter non armored vehicule come from Japan.
All Artillery units (trucked/towed/support vehicules) are USA or European made
SAM/AAA Guns in HAL Army are US/Russian/German/Sweden made or Homemade
NAVAL FORCE:
Retired/Active/Future - all ships and submarines were/are/will be European or US made
i don’t see much Israelian stuff in Greece,… to be exact, there is only:
3x leased IAI Heitan “Heron I” ISR UAV
34x Sandcat 350 ATGM carriers (using SPIKE SR or at best MR/LR)
Loitering Drones “Orbiter 1K”
and in the future (vouchers made by Greece):
100x Spike SR missiles
36x PULS Rocket launchers
That’s it,…
how are they hating Israel for not giving them Greek stuff that isnt in any way conected to Israel
yeah if anything there would be more justification to add greece to germany or france than to israel
or even italy
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If they declared that they would give things to Israel and don’t do it, it’s very unfair. Also, certain sub-trees are based on their location on the map, and since Gajjin saw Israel with few vehicles, and Italy unsuitable for Greece, so they added them to Israel
that’s what i’ve said to @Smin1080p_WT ,… but the fact that Gaijin currently don’t consider Greece to be a subtree, but a tree inside a groupment of nation mainly represented by Israel make difficult to have any changes,… despite Italy having a more urgent needs, that Greece could be filling.
If Gaijin really wanted to add something to israel per region,… Egypt is the true solution,… it’s literally at the border,… or maybe Turkish/Lebanon,… since geography is the only matter. (oh,… it will shock people? but it’s the same by adding greece to israel)
i don’t checked much about Cyprus but they’re clearly closer to Greece than Israel.
they could be their own groupment in the game, adding some east-european country to it.
After that.
Hardly denying a country for subtree (even when it has many reasons) its bc maybe they want to make a TT for it. (or they just dont care about that nation)
Just like Ukraine (for now?), Turkye, North Korea in the past (even when they got many vehicles in the china TT they got their own TT and never a subtree), etc.
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Dont forget the M113 modernizations!!
Either you’re uninformed or lying, and simply pointing to the Israeli SandKat proves this wrong.
But of course, you’re still missing more than that.
Greece Set to Deploy Israeli Long-Range Missiles on Aegean Islands - GreekReporter.com
Greece to buy artillery systems from Israel worth over $600 million | The Times of Israel
Greece to order Israeli Barak and PULS instead of US Patriot and HIMARS
Increased Israel-Greek defense ties opening options for Israeli firms - Breaking Defense
Many fire Israeli ammunition and use Israeli modifications.
Ah yes, because the Marder program definitely has nothing to do with Israel lol
It’s not like Israel developed the TAM 2 series or anything. Not at all.
You don’t care to look. You refute anything proving Israel should have Greece without actually taking the time to learn the historical and military ties. There’s always time to learn.
Israel defense tech reshaping Greece security | The Jerusalem Post
Greece Is Keen to Expand Ties with Israel
Increased Israel-Greek defense ties opening options for Israeli firms - Breaking Defense
And for anyone continuing to utter the “Israel doesn’t have ties to Greece” nonsense, just like you did with India, I’m not even getting started. I haven’t listed even a single percentile of the total evidence against that claim.
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the marder a german vehicle
the TAM a german vehicle based on the marder
all you have shown is a SUV and two upgrades to already existing german systems
but if thats good enough then i guess that russia should be a german sub tree then
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so whats about Greece’s MBTs or Jets are they also made by Israel
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What he is refering its the upgrade of the greek marder, with israel installing the hvms turret. You know, the one of the m113 bardelas with the 60mm sabot.
Its like saying machbet should go to the US because its an M113…
yeah he is just arguing in bad faith
some minor upgrade was provided by Israel, while ignoring where the Vehicles come from in the first place
but clearly that dosent matter
ah yes a country has diplomatic relations with another one
i guess everything should be in the Israeli tech tree then
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you cpuld say that the abrams should go into the german tech tree bc they use a german gun
The Abrams does not use a German gun. It’s German-derived. They are not the same.
I don’t think you understand me.
The upgrade of greek vehicles from Israel should be enough to evidence a tie between these 2 nations. With germany not related aside from the sell of the platform long ago.
So theres a reason to see SOME greek vehicles under israel. (like that marder or m113 modernized). If greece its not gonna have their own TT.
If you say the greek marder its german so it should be in German TT. Then so the japanese AH-1 and AH-64 should be as US subtree?
That will just make copy paste of already present vehicles in the same TT.
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Given you started this whole tyrade with the good old ‘promised 3000 years ago’ line, it’s a fairly reasonable stance for them to assume
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You didn’t answer the question.
Israel and Greece are both Mediterranean nations with historical ties and are military partners. They share the same goal of opposition to Turkey, among other things.
Switzerland and Germany do not share many ties. If anything, they’ve been effectively enemies for the majority of recent history.
I did not say Anti-Semitism. I said Israel. There is a difference.
Despite your intentionally anti-Jewish remark earlier, I used that word intentionally.
Good going on breaking forum rules.