Well my response was general, but aimed more at this
Of which the complaint at the time was that MICA was underperforming and that france needed a BVR platform
Rafale was and still is the best plane in game. Wt players will literally complain about anything. France did not struggle people just whined
Ahhh right, because the Rafale was in the game when the F-16AM was added… right?
Did you really pay attention at all, or just jump in this thread to claim france is better than everyone else?
Na haa, greece and cyrpus to israel is GREAT:))))))
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I moght have mixed those up since I have been actively ignoring the benelux copy paste slop. Sorry
I never claimed that. I just said the rafale is the best plane and that france did not really struggle
So all the people whining about the lack of BVR from june-november 2024 have ceased existing?
Alright then 👍
You say this, yet it makes sense as Greece and Cyprus rely on Israeli weapon systems a lot. Similarly, India, Singapore, and many South American countries also rely on Israeli weapon systems.
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Greece and cyprus have ordered/received Israeli SAMs, Greece recently ordered a ton of SPICE kits and engage in frequent training/interoperability exercises as far as the air forces are concerned.
I think the whole ‘germany, france, britain’ argument is void anyway because they all have subtrees, don’t need gap filling and don’t have direct military ties to Greece beyond exports, making them less or equally as viable as an israeli subtree, while lacking the irl exercises
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Again putting words in my mouth.
It was promised 3000 years ago
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they say they plan to
not that they are going to, they didnt promise anything
Thank you for your service!
I sometimes wonder if Gajjin hates Israel because its whole situation is so geopolitically contentious
they are cooking a Korean tech tree
Greece : where?
AIR FORCE:
Rafale EG/DG (C F.3R /D F.3R) ?
Mirage F.1?
Mirage 2000EG/BG (2000C equivalent)?
Mirage 2000EGM/BGM (2000-5 equivalent)?
Alongside some US aircrafts : F-102 / F-84F / F-86 / F-104 / F-5 / A-7 Corsairs / F-4E PI2000 /F-16C/D /F-35A
and Supermarine Spitfires after the WWII
Trainners are italian or US made
All SAM systems are USA/Russian/European made
GROUND FORCE:
MBT are Germans or US made
IFV: Germans
APC: Homemade/US made
Mobile Mortars: US Made
ATGM Carrier : Most are US made
rest of Vehicules are USA, Canadian, Russian, German or French made (or homemade for some), lighter non armored vehicule come from Japan.
All Artillery units (trucked/towed/support vehicules) are USA or European made
SAM/AAA Guns in HAL Army are US/Russian/German/Sweden made or Homemade
NAVAL FORCE:
Retired/Active/Future - all ships and submarines were/are/will be European or US made
i don’t see much Israelian stuff in Greece,… to be exact, there is only:
3x leased IAI Heitan “Heron I” ISR UAV
34x Sandcat 350 ATGM carriers (using SPIKE SR or at best MR/LR)
Loitering Drones “Orbiter 1K”
and in the future (vouchers made by Greece):
100x Spike SR missiles
36x PULS Rocket launchers
That’s it,…
how are they hating Israel for not giving them Greek stuff that isnt in any way conected to Israel
yeah if anything there would be more justification to add greece to germany or france than to israel
or even italy
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If they declared that they would give things to Israel and don’t do it, it’s very unfair. Also, certain sub-trees are based on their location on the map, and since Gajjin saw Israel with few vehicles, and Italy unsuitable for Greece, so they added them to Israel
that’s what i’ve said to @Smin1080p_WT ,… but the fact that Gaijin currently don’t consider Greece to be a subtree, but a tree inside a groupment of nation mainly represented by Israel make difficult to have any changes,… despite Italy having a more urgent needs, that Greece could be filling.
If Gaijin really wanted to add something to israel per region,… Egypt is the true solution,… it’s literally at the border,… or maybe Turkish/Lebanon,… since geography is the only matter. (oh,… it will shock people? but it’s the same by adding greece to israel)
i don’t checked much about Cyprus but they’re clearly closer to Greece than Israel.
they could be their own groupment in the game, adding some east-european country to it.
After that.
Hardly denying a country for subtree (even when it has many reasons) its bc maybe they want to make a TT for it. (or they just dont care about that nation)
Just like Ukraine (for now?), Turkye, North Korea in the past (even when they got many vehicles in the china TT they got their own TT and never a subtree), etc.
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