Potentially rare Portuguese M113A1 with M40A1 recoilless rifle. Elsewhere in the world it’s a very common mod but in the context of this tree I don’t believe Spain or Greece created such things.
The M113 family Interest Group | Portuguese M113A1 field modification. | Facebook
Would make for a good light tank between 5.3 and 6.3 seeing the lower mobility and larger profile than the FIAT.
I have photos of M44 inside of a greek base, ok i found it
sorry but its the best that i can do
and photos from old parades
Something to keep an eye out
nahh greece is always is looking around but we don’t have the money for nothing, except same overprized F35
I support this +1 !!!
AMX-30 Roand can be added to. Used by Spain until 2015.
The San Carlos 155 SPG. One protoype built by Spain.
Pretty much copy-paste, so I left it out
Only a small-scale wooden mock-up, unfortunately, not a functional prototype.
IIRC was a full scale and some elements like gun were built. But yes with the addition of M-109 no reason for add a protoype.
What about M-108 and M-110 both used by Spain???
Something I missed from June 13th of last year, an unveiling of the Hellenic “M113 Remote Vulcan” (M113 RV). This is the prototype I previously discussed in my November 2024 post. While we do not yet know the full capabilities, we can assume that it has modern FCS/sights and therefore is an improvement over the previous M113/M61 mashups.
What we are seeing here is (at the moment) the pinnacle of Greek M163 copycats, and as such I believe it deserves a spot in the tree, probably at 7.7.
Greece also put a ZU-23-2 on their M113’s though it’s not unique to Greece since Lebanon also mount ZU-23’s on their M113’s
This is true, however it’s a domestic conversion so still worth inclusion in my eyes. Regardless, the BMP-1A1 w/ZU-23-2 already found within Chieftain’s tree is a better pick IMO due to its lower profile and better armor, not to mention the fact that it’s in service whereas the M113 mod was a prototype if I remember correctly.
the M163 are at 7.3 with tracking this thing probably doesn’t have tracking
It most likely does considering that it’s entirely remote control (hence the name).
I would also like to note that Greece uses modified M48A3/5 MOLF that retain the 90mm Gun while being equipped with the MOLF fire control system and two plane stabilzier
One-off modifications of the Greek M113; H&K 40mm GMG, and MILAN
As Greece has yet to modernize its fleet, both of these vehicles can be added at modest BRs without interference from modern components.
The grenade launcher will be kinda useless, as for the Milan carrier why not? (Even if I prefer the one in the Mercedes)
Out of all variants (they are like 3-4 now I think) with the Vulcan this is the most interesting one
Well modern grenade launchers tend to come with multi-purpose HEAT rounds for light armor, and since this one is mounted on a relatively primitive APC I figured it could work as mid-tier light tank.
And Greek M113 MILAN is redundant anyways since Spain uses something very similar but in bigger numbers.
I posted this vehicle and video a while ago, back in comment #38. Since then, we’ve gotten an official prototype, so I’m not sure this one is needed anymore.
