Then the only option will be to align you with Turkey into a joint TT 😆
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PZH2000GR should be in 7.7, also you could add as premium, or squadron Greek M109 , an Greek M44 , M60A3 TTS, M901, leopard 1, the new Leopard1HEL, the new Leonidas 2 variant that there is a comment about it ( with 30mm and 2 spikes i think), + the M1113 variants , the M8 and finally and most important the L3
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SPAIN+PORTUGAL+GREECE+CYPRUS sounds good to me better than all the other about a Balkan tree
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Especially considering that Yugoslavia and Turkey can have their own separate TT’s
Will change the BR, and probably folder
All copy-paste and IMO entirely unnecessary. There’s already the Spanish M109A5E; contemplated the M44 originally but there are 3 SPGs at 4.0–4.7 already, and the M52 is slightly more unique; no room for the M901 (and it’s copy-paste); M60A3 TTS is unnecessary copy-paste and bloats the MBT lines a bit; the Leopard 1A4GR is in the tree.
Waiting on an actual prototype to be built, so far it’s just CG renders
Yes, I made that suggestion — when I update the post next I’ll try fit it in (it’s not got Spikes, it has a probable mock-up loitering munitions launcher). Same with the Leonidas-2 EWS and T25.
Which ones? WIll try and add the M113A1 (SAMSON Dual RWS) but are there any others I’m missing?
Copy-paste. Not fully against it though.
Don’t believe they ever captured an L3/33 CC variant — just the ones with single or dual machine guns, which would be useless in-game.
the prototype of the Leopard1HEL is done i have made a suggestion but my post is not uploaded yet (it is getting check by moderators) also Greece used Leopard 1a1, also the AMX30B2 , the other M1113 variants will be useless in the game.
No, it isn’t. CG models have been made, and the armour (mock-up likely) was displayed at DEFEA 2025, but no functional vehicle has been upgraded.
Leopard 1A1 is unnecessary, especially as there are already 7 other 8.0 vehicles. AMX-30B2 is unnecessary copy-paste when the more unique Spanish AMX-30Es are in the tree and fulfil a very similar niche, but are actually domestic upgrades.
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the armor is not mock-up i am sure about that its called ASPIS (shield in Greek) that is going too the LEO2A4 too. I know that 99% are Ai but i think that this is vot
also do you know about the
Λεωνίδας 25mm
Λεωνίδας 90mm
Λεωνίδας 105mm
Yes it is — that’s also CG. It’s very obvious if you compare it with all the other renders.
Leonidas-1 (ET-90 II) — 90mm
Leonidas-2 (TC-13) — 25mm
Leonidas-2 (T25) — 25mm
Leonidas-2 (EWS) — 25mm
There was no 105mm. The image you have is the Austrian SK-105
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i dont know about the image but the are leonidas with 105mm
“ΤΟΜΠ Λεωνίδας - Βικιπαίδεια”
i would sent pictures but its illegal in Greece to take pictures of military staff
“Some “Leonidas I” have been modified by the Hellenic Vehicle Industry to carry turrets with a 90 or 105mm Cockerill cannon; this version had a support fire role and could be used in anti-tank missions,”
No images exist of any of these variants. As far as I understand it, having researched the Leonidas to the best of my ability, no cockerill gun was ever fitted. I believe in at least one edition of Jane’s it simply says “compatible with…”. We know the years that the 25mm turrets were fitted, and that the 90mm was fitted a few years prior, but there is nothing about a 105mm gun. I presume it’s confusion with the ET-90 II version (because it’s a license-built Cockerill 90mm) and the SK-105.
i don’t know a friend of mine that he is in the Greek army he said to me that 100% we have same weird looking tanks in storage produced by ELBO also Greek army used the SK 105 KURASSIER Steyr and maybe he saw them ( Steyr owned ELBO for same time ago and the Leonidas is based in an Austrian tank and the have similar hull)
UPDATE
New Vehicles:
- [GR] Leonidas-2 (EWS) — BR 7.0, Rank IV
- [GR] Leonidas-2 (T25) — BR 7.0, Rank IV. Premium Vehicle.
- [GR] M113A1 (SAMSON Dual RWS) — BR 9.3, Rank VI. Squadron Vehicle.
- [GR] Leonidas-1 (Nimrod 300/2) — BR 9.3, Rank VI
- [PT] Chaimite V-200 (Armada 90) — BR 6.7, Rank IV. Foldered with Chaimite V-200.
- [ES] NASAMS 2 — BR 12.0, Rank VIII
Renamed Vehicles:
- Leonidas-2 (ET-90 II) → Leonidas-1 (ET-90 II)
Moved Vehicles:
- PzH 2000: BR 8.0 → 7.7; Foldered with BMR-600 TC-7
- TOA (TC-13): BR 7.7 → 7.0
- Leonidas-2 (TC-13): BR 7.7 → 7.0
- ASCOD LT-105LRF: Rank VI → Rank VII
- ASCOD LPT: Foldered with ASCOD LT-105LRF
- Pandur II (TOW): BR 9.0 → 9.3
- M114GR: Foldered with Pandur II (TOW)
Will update the main post with info about the new vehicles soon.
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The Greek PzH-2000 are called PzH-2000GR the are not the exact same with the German one. First the don’t have additional roof armor, and they can fire 3 shoots at 10 seconds
PzH 2000 can already reload at that rate, that’s not unique to the Greek version.
Do you have a source for both that being the official name?
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The Greek Centaur tanks had 0.50CAL on top that made them cinda unique.
i have found one more picture.
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