The Greek Centaur tanks had 0.50CAL on top that made them cinda unique.
i have found one more picture.
Found another photo
Also found a couple other T-26s armed with roof mounted MGs (different than the one in this suggestion I believe)
Here’s an interesting one; an SPG of the Portuguese garrison in Macau, China, sometime between 1937-1945. While I can’t ID the truck (a Ford maybe?) the cannon appears to be a 75mm Type 41 mountain gun with an early gunshield, although if this is true I’m not exactly sure how the Portuguese would’ve obtained one.
Macau During the Second World War - Macau Lifestyle
Upgrade for Greece’s M113s developed by Elbit Systems. Features a 30mm turret with optional ATGMs — seemingly a new turret derived from the UT30MK2 —, a new engine (350–380hp), and upgraded armour.
8 separate proposals have been made for Greece’s M113 modernisation program, and they are under review by the Greek Army:
- EODH
- Multiple variants of the ‘M113 HEL’ proposed at Eurosatory 2024: base, with 12.7mm RWS or 40mm grenade launcher, or complete, with either a 12.7mm RWS, Midgard 200 20mm RWS, or Guardian 250 25mm RWS (and additional upgrades such as spall liners)
- RAM Europe (and an unspecified Italian company)
- Could not find info on their proposals, likely not public yet
- EAS (Hellenic Defence Systems) and FFG
- Could not find info on their proposals, likely not public yet
- Elbit Systems
- M113 with the UT30MK3 30mm RWS, revealed recently. Features an entirely new hull. At least one prototype built.
- Rafael
- M113 with 30mm Samson Dual RWS and Spike ATGMs. One prototype already built and tested: M113A1 (SAMSON Dual RWS)
- MER Group
- Could not find info on their proposals, likely not public yet. MER don’t produce vehicles, just electronic systems, so I’m not sure what they’re doing.
- John Cockerill
- M113 with Cockerill 1030. Concepts shown at DEFEA 2025.
- Hanwha Defence
- Could not find info on their proposals, likely not public yet
Source: https://www.defence-point.gr/toylachiston-ochto-lyseis-anavathmisis-ton-tomp-m113-sta-cheria-toy-ges
Bad decision :sob:
+1 a tree that can actually start from rank 1 is good and have some interesting additions
It’s seems that it will be just an Iberian Teck tree
Flashbanged.
Anyway, but surprised they get the Greece vehicles in Israel. Smin uses the geographical card, but they aren’t really neighbors anyway. Turkey would have made more sense for Israel imho.
And I guess close military relations, but they aren’t nearly as close as Chile or Colombia. Or even Azerbaijan.
Would make sense if Turkey didn’t have the capability to be larger than the Israeli tree and wouldn’t have nearly as much copy and paste.
Would still have some copy paste as a standalone. With Israel it could have been a very unique tech tree imo.
“Israel” and “Unique” in the same sentence
I think Turkey + SK would’ve been better. Or just Turkey standalone. It will always have C&P but if it went with Israel then Israel would just dilute it.
*AND Israel has better options.
R.I.P.
I had my illusions.
An Iberian TT could still probably be standalone, but without Greece… it was a missed opportunity, the Greeks are being put where they don’t belong.
You guys still can maybe protest it? try giving negative feedback isntead of taking it?
We have seen what the Chinese community did, we have seen what our community did when they saw Singapore was going to get added to China, and Gaijin responded, so why dont you guys try?
I’m not Greek, but I’m up for it. Meds need proper representation and not becoming part of some lame C&P subtree IMO.
While the justification for Greece in Israel is kinda whatever, its not as outrageous as Singapore in China or some other subtree decisions.
Will it make Israel pure copypaste slop? Undeniably. But i personally dont think is as bad decision as to warrant a protest.