Gneisenau, the potential problem child of naval?

[kusanagi_kaga]

Not the wikipedia, in game’s data, gaijin using the same data on it, like its on Tacoma class or Asheville class, they have the same data.

[HK_Reporter]

No, it’s not up to RNG, or at least not by the entirety. Also not every battleship is as vulnerable to elevator fires as Scharnhorst. See my comment here:

Does it make sense to have elevator ignition that will lead to instant explosion?

The time for fire to spread into magazine is affected by where the fire initiates, which depends on where the incoming shell explodes. If the fire is initiated at the lower ammo elevator, it can spread into the magazine in just a few seconds. Scharnhorst has particularly short ammo elevator and her magazine is placed over the shell room so she’s exceptionally vulnerable to this kind of threat. Kronshtadt and many other ships with shell room over magazine are not particularly vulnerable to fire f…

Apparently Scharnhorst can’t even be called as very survivable at this moment, in any battle with many human players in top tier battleships, they just explode left and right whenever somebody throws AP into their barbettes, even poor Strasbourg last longer than these once invincible powercreeps. You wouldn’t even see bug report like this in the past 3 years until very recently:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/raHd5yefbQAI

[Morvran]

Definetly a little RNG, either that or the display in the top right isnt always accurate, but yeah, can confirm. Took out 3x Scharnhorsts the other night in a single match aiming for the ammo lifts. 2 of them took setting it on fire twice before popping

[HK_Reporter]

The display on hit camera at the top right only tells you that “elevator is on fire”, but it doesn’t tell you the exact location where the fire initiates

[Thodin]

I have the impression that these bot players are almost impossible to ammorack. They can have all elevators on fire, without any effect. While real player ships usually detonate.

[kusanagi_kaga]

Bot players will never be detonated by fire, the only chance to denote them is directly hit on its mag or shell room.

[kusanagi_kaga]

So, due to Gaijin’s lazy, I think they will completely use the old model part except the turret on Genisenau, just like what they did on 381 turret or Novorossiysk. And in this way, I don’t think Genisenau will have such incredible survival performance like Scharnhost in last three years.

[Thodin]

When I encounter an enemy BB, I always aim for the turrets. For some types Its like a killswitch. Scharnhorst is no exception. Probably a nerf due to player complaints. Its that bad that you barely survive longer than 1 or 2 enemy salvos. Since most players aim for turrets, including me.

Its the other extreme. They changed it during on of the last patches. It was like going from the best BB in Warthunder overnight to absulte unplayable trash. Spawn, get hit at the turret. Boom. Game over. Idiot balancing.