Gneisenau, the potential problem child of naval?

Definetly a little RNG, either that or the display in the top right isnt always accurate, but yeah, can confirm. Took out 3x Scharnhorsts the other night in a single match aiming for the ammo lifts. 2 of them took setting it on fire twice before popping

The display on hit camera at the top right only tells you that “elevator is on fire”, but it doesn’t tell you the exact location where the fire initiates

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I have the impression that these bot players are almost impossible to ammorack. They can have all elevators on fire, without any effect. While real player ships usually detonate.

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Bot players will never be detonated by fire, the only chance to denote them is directly hit on its mag or shell room.

So, due to Gaijin’s lazy, I think they will completely use the old model part except the turret on Genisenau, just like what they did on 381 turret or Novorossiysk. And in this way, I don’t think Genisenau will have such incredible survival performance like Scharnhost in last three years.

When I encounter an enemy BB, I always aim for the turrets. For some types Its like a killswitch. Scharnhorst is no exception. Probably a nerf due to player complaints. Its that bad that you barely survive longer than 1 or 2 enemy salvos. Since most players aim for turrets, including me.

Its the other extreme. They changed it during on of the last patches. It was like going from the best BB in Warthunder overnight to absulte unplayable trash. Spawn, get hit at the turret. Boom. Game over. Idiot balancing.

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all I see here is a person crying when a nation gets something too good for your liking, why not just accept what we get?

Gneisenau is a bit much for its BR. The Scharnhorst class has a rounded turtleback design which is much more efficient in the game, at the cost of only 5-15mm of thickness compared to the Bismarck. While its upper belt is substantially thinner than that of the Bismarck, it has the same main belt thickness, thicker fore and aft transverse bulkheads, and the barbettes are thicker below the weather deck. All that, and it only sacrifices a single turret with the same firing angles as its larger counterpart.

If our point of reference is Bismarck being effective at 8.3, then I think it’s only fair a Scharnhorst with the same guns and rate of fire should go to 8.0 to take pressure off anything under 7.7. Sevastopol has a much weaker hull and therefore makes sense as low as it is.