For me the move of GJ to introduce the KMS Gneisenau with its “none” Historical equipment does not make sense.
Its clear that the 38cm Guns of the Tirpitz and Bismarck were never mounted. The 28cm turret was used as coastal artillery in Norway.
I would have thought that GJ would bring Tirpitz (1944) as premium, while Bismarck as regular TT. Tirpitz was not only faster, but had torpedoes, and way more flak.
Chikugo’s 3inch cannon was designed before WWI, they just add auto-reloading system on it, and its version don’t have seawater cooling system, not like OTO 76cannon which was cooled by seawater.
So a 1970’s ship’s gun was made in ww1 lmao u dunno what ur on about mate
would you please provide a source to that?
USA 3"/50 (7.62 cm) Marks 27, 33 and 34 - NavWeaps
no we do not need tirpitz as a premium it would be OP that you can just buy your way to germanys best boat
He’s getting confused with the 3-inch/50 of ww1-ww2.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_3-50_mk10-22.php
I think he is using wikipedia as a source
because there it says up to the Mk.22 and the Mk.33 twin guns have not been listed in there.
Yeah they are different guns, that’s why they don’t share a wiki page.
Although the more modern 3"/50 is based on the older one. Mostly to enable an autoloader, e.g automatic breech block instead of a vertical sliding one.
Elevator fires is incredibly RNG prone, its a weakness that arguably every BB shares. Its completely down to luck if ammo elevators set off magazines or not, ive seen Scharnhorsts shrug off fire after fire that started in her main turrets.
While other BBs have other modules that you can shoot at, Gneisenau has literally no other option.
But in actual gaming experience, I played every top tier BB since the update(I already researched all country’s top tier BB), German BB use the shortest time since ammo elevator fire to mag explosion, then is Russian or American BB like pari or Colorado.
Not the wikipedia, in game’s data, gaijin using the same data on it, like its on Tacoma class or Asheville class, they have the same data.
No, it’s not up to RNG, or at least not by the entirety. Also not every battleship is as vulnerable to elevator fires as Scharnhorst. See my comment here:
Apparently Scharnhorst can’t even be called as very survivable at this moment, in any battle with many human players in top tier battleships, they just explode left and right whenever somebody throws AP into their barbettes, even poor Strasbourg last longer than these once invincible powercreeps. You wouldn’t even see bug report like this in the past 3 years until very recently:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/raHd5yefbQAI
Definetly a little RNG, either that or the display in the top right isnt always accurate, but yeah, can confirm. Took out 3x Scharnhorsts the other night in a single match aiming for the ammo lifts. 2 of them took setting it on fire twice before popping
The display on hit camera at the top right only tells you that “elevator is on fire”, but it doesn’t tell you the exact location where the fire initiates
I have the impression that these bot players are almost impossible to ammorack. They can have all elevators on fire, without any effect. While real player ships usually detonate.
Bot players will never be detonated by fire, the only chance to denote them is directly hit on its mag or shell room.
So, due to Gaijin’s lazy, I think they will completely use the old model part except the turret on Genisenau, just like what they did on 381 turret or Novorossiysk. And in this way, I don’t think Genisenau will have such incredible survival performance like Scharnhost in last three years.
When I encounter an enemy BB, I always aim for the turrets. For some types Its like a killswitch. Scharnhorst is no exception. Probably a nerf due to player complaints. Its that bad that you barely survive longer than 1 or 2 enemy salvos. Since most players aim for turrets, including me.
Its the other extreme. They changed it during on of the last patches. It was like going from the best BB in Warthunder overnight to absulte unplayable trash. Spawn, get hit at the turret. Boom. Game over. Idiot balancing.
all I see here is a person crying when a nation gets something too good for your liking, why not just accept what we get?
Gneisenau is a bit much for its BR. The Scharnhorst class has a rounded turtleback design which is much more efficient in the game, at the cost of only 5-15mm of thickness compared to the Bismarck. While its upper belt is substantially thinner than that of the Bismarck, it has the same main belt thickness, thicker fore and aft transverse bulkheads, and the barbettes are thicker below the weather deck. All that, and it only sacrifices a single turret with the same firing angles as its larger counterpart.
If our point of reference is Bismarck being effective at 8.3, then I think it’s only fair a Scharnhorst with the same guns and rate of fire should go to 8.0 to take pressure off anything under 7.7. Sevastopol has a much weaker hull and therefore makes sense as low as it is.
