Gneisenau, the potential problem child of naval?

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i didnt know that intresting

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Riley explained it really well

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what was bismarcks ROF ? 40?

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Less than that I think, like 25-30 seconds

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Gaijin has a habit of givng axis and soviet ship the most optimum RoF they can find. Bismarks theoretical RoF had her ammo elevators break down when performing the tests, so the 20 second result was made if the elevators didnt break down.

Regardless, she never even reached those figures in battle. But Gaijin has shown that they wont care, so its entirely possible we’ll see Bismark and Gneisenau with 20-25 second reloads.

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15in gun go brrr

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20 second reload at 0 degrees loading angle. However this was prone to failure, which is the same reason why Strasbourg and Rodney had slower reloads, which has been reflected in-game. But gaijin tends to be very optimistic with German ships. Overall I’d plan for a 20-25 second reload.

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I didn’t scroll down far enough to see your comment, seemingly great minds think alike…

Gneisenau may start with 20-25 seconds, she won’t stay that way though. She literally has so little and so weak power assistance there is no way she could achieve even 40 seconds without some sort of mythical teleportation powers of the crew to move shells and charges from each component of the autoloader.

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In my opinion, this vessel as a premium is like a money trap, or a ‘fair’ trade if you will — give the players a obvious powerful premium at the highest battle rating it could be in exchange you give Gaijin money.

Sincerely if the Gneisenau perform better than the Scharnhorst and it get a good amount of money to Gaijin, maybe they’ll pay attention to naval and fix some problems and focus part of their efforts in making this gamemode more appealing.

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You are posting about a game mode you think no-one plays?

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a higher fire rate for bismarck isnt that bad since she is gonna be outclassed by yamato iowa etc

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Not necessarily.

context will be key, but I think Yamato might be a bit of a glass canon

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thats only if they model her armor brittle like IRL which i feel they arent gonna

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nonsensical answer.

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Please don’t feed the wildlife.

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I don’t think it really a problem. Since hornet’s sting update, Scharnhost’s surviving ability was serious nerfed, any BBs in 7.0, just aim scharn’s turret 1 or 2 and cause fire on ammo elevator, then can easily explosion its mag. So I think we can do the same thing on Gneisenau, and it will become glass cannon.For 69I, I think every naval players know how to explosion a Kron : )

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So, for the new premium ships, they only have powerful 38cm cannon, but poor survival performance, maybe that’s the reason why gaijin choice them as the premium ships in top tier. It is pretty balance for them as the BR7.0 premium ships.

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but this is gaijin we are talking about they’ll probably make it 30s

look what they did to the JMSDF ships like the Chikugo, in real life the ships can fire their entire rounds (of like 400-800) in WT you can barely fire 20 and the guns overheat

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