Something straight out of star wars, love it
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The name is badass as well, “Dragonfire”
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Oh look, it’s the same issue plaguing FCAS as well lmao
Spoiler
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From my understanding at least reading what they are talking about it seems U.K might be unwilling to share some specific technologies? I wonder why though considering Italy and Japan are basically sharing everything.
Time to revive this thread lol
Seems like the FCAS fighter is going to be killed soon
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Sorry for the very late response I am not that up to date right now.
I might have to recheck but as far as I’m aware Italy is interested in bringing Germany into the program, so well see how that plays out I guess.
This might also be late news but I might as well bring it up.
anything that combines germany and france in one project always fails
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Would probably be Germanys best choice, even if we only get some privileges to modify it ourselves in exchange for money, but afaik Tempest and FCAS are designed for very different doctrines, so not sure if our military would be happy with that solution. Doing it ourselves (or maybe just with spain and maybe Sweden, dunno if they already have a project going tbh) would probably take too long or be too expensive.
Also, according to Reuters the meeting is currently scheduled for the 11. December
I mean, the Tiger heli was pretty successful I’d say (even if outdated nowadays), but that is very much the exception
I knew from the start something similar to this would happen with them.
It would. Even if Germany wouldn’t want to join, there isn’t much else they can do as far as I’m aware. Unless for reason they decide to join whatever’s concept Sweden is on to right now, at this point I’ll just have my fingers crossed waiting for their meeting.
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Most likely scenario here is GCAP goes ahead, maybe collects a few more nations to sell to, FCAS falls apart with France and Germany both perusing their own designs with the way they’re both talking atm.
If GCAP ever exist, Japan and Italy are still waiting UK for their DIP (it keep being pushed to later) and so to be able to sign any contract…
I never really thought much about polands views on gcap from the beginning but good for them i guess, india seems to step up their interests too that i’ve heard somewhere
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India is especially interested in FCAS since they are buying french planes and funding a french 6th gen engine.
Otherwise GCAP can’t be navalized so it’s another reason that it is not happening.
And Japan like the other members would not want to give workshares to India which is the thing that they would for sure ask.
I think india is also particularly interested in technology-transfer. And I severely doubt France hands it over (maybe if Germany and Spain leave there’s a deal to be struck), and its never going to happen with GCAP.
Now the only partners that can join are tier 1 partners who get no tech insight, but rather just manufacturing shares and customisation rights when it comes to GCAP.
Seems GCAP may indeed suit Poland then as long as they’re comfortable in not having a design input but gaining limited tech-transfer and manufacture rights.
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