So far not that i can find.
We know each nation will contribute to something
“Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, BAE Systems, and Leonardo will work on the aircraft body. They have already planned their roles by fall 2023. IHI in Japan will develop the engine, and Mitsubishi Electric will be in charge of the electronic systems inside the body”
My best guess for what it is is a later depiction of F-X (pre-GCAP) that we just haven’t seen before.
But it being used does suggest that GCAP design isn’t fully locked in. I think what we’re seeing now is the design for the testbed that’s under construction, which is likely going to be for GCAP what YF-22 was for F-22.
I could see TVC being used to minimize movement of the control surfaces as a way to reduce visibility. But it could also just be low visibility design around non-TVC engines.
Hopefully it won’t fall under the F-22 Raptor situation: extremely expensive to maintain and manufacture and actually makes the step further in the new generation aircraft and away from the old but yet active forth generation.
Something straight out of star wars, love it
The name is badass as well, “Dragonfire”
Oh look, it’s the same issue plaguing FCAS as well lmao
From my understanding at least reading what they are talking about it seems U.K might be unwilling to share some specific technologies? I wonder why though considering Italy and Japan are basically sharing everything.
Time to revive this thread lol
Seems like the FCAS fighter is going to be killed soon
Sorry for the very late response I am not that up to date right now.
I might have to recheck but as far as I’m aware Italy is interested in bringing Germany into the program, so well see how that plays out I guess.
This might also be late news but I might as well bring it up.
anything that combines germany and france in one project always fails
Would probably be Germanys best choice, even if we only get some privileges to modify it ourselves in exchange for money, but afaik Tempest and FCAS are designed for very different doctrines, so not sure if our military would be happy with that solution. Doing it ourselves (or maybe just with spain and maybe Sweden, dunno if they already have a project going tbh) would probably take too long or be too expensive.
Also, according to Reuters the meeting is currently scheduled for the 11. December
I mean, the Tiger heli was pretty successful I’d say (even if outdated nowadays), but that is very much the exception
I knew from the start something similar to this would happen with them.
It would. Even if Germany wouldn’t want to join, there isn’t much else they can do as far as I’m aware. Unless for reason they decide to join whatever’s concept Sweden is on to right now, at this point I’ll just have my fingers crossed waiting for their meeting.
Most likely scenario here is GCAP goes ahead, maybe collects a few more nations to sell to, FCAS falls apart with France and Germany both perusing their own designs with the way they’re both talking atm.
If GCAP ever exist, Japan and Italy are still waiting UK for their DIP (it keep being pushed to later) and so to be able to sign any contract…
