Giving the F-16D its I-Derby ER

16D being at the same br as the MKK doesn’t make much sense and it can’t possibly move down so the ER would help level the playing field

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That the Su-30MKK is unbalanced is very obvious. And the F-16D is good for its BR. It makes it unique compared to other F-16C or similar variants in that it has worse missiles but a lower BR. Giving it a higher BR would make it just like the others. I’m not too well informed on the I-Derby ER, but can’t the F-16C Barak 2 carry it? Or is there any difference that would make it incompatible? Because that would make the plane more unique and wouldn’t need to change its BR.

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In theory yes, however it was only mounted on the 16D

On the contrary, it’d be the most unique variant, featuring a dual pulse missile at the lowest BR. As it currently stands, it is just a worse-off 16C and its lower BR never really makes a difference as it is always dragged into the 13.3 matchmaker black-hole created by the premium su30s

I doubt it’d go up to 13.7 even with Derby ER though

But the F-16D is statistically doing great. It has a good global K/D of 1.13. The F-16C Barak II has a 0.99 K/D, and I regularly play the F-16D and do fine. My stats in it aren’t great, but they are affected by the IR and early ARH meta, where I wasn’t really good. It doesn’t need a buff. The Su-30s should move up to 13.7; that would make it a bit better. Giving it to the F-16C Barak II would make it better but not justify a BR increase. If I saw the statistics of the other thread correctly, the I-Derby ER should have twice the range of the Derby. So it would definitely increase the F-16D BR to 13.7.

For a static launch yes, for an airborne launch though, I’m not too sure

In game it has functionally identical range though and the dual-pulse feature is just a gimmick

It has a bit more energy, according to the data mines. It also has a stronger sustainer, so it should have more range.

It has only about 10% more thrust

3 good options here imo.

1: Add the F-16C and F-16D Block 30 Barak Is, give them identical kits to the Barak IIs but with the I-Derby Series.

2: Add the F-16C and F-16D Block 30 Barak Is, give them identical kits to the Barak IIs but without the I-Derby Series, adding them to the Barak IIs already ingame.

3: Add the modernized Barak 2020 F-16s, either Barak I or Barak II with the I-Derby ER (my preferred option, means the earlier Block 30s can be added without any ARH missiles before the Barak IIs, nice unique option)

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They should add it to the f15i which is Israel’s best air craft

The thing is, it never used it

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Block 30s would be at a higher BR than the block 40s as they are the F16 models with the best dogfight characteristics

no they said they were working on the mechanics of dual pulse missiles and didnt plan to add them right now

no it wont

So, why does the SPYDER have the I-Derby ER with dual pulse modeled on the dev server?

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its not fully working on dev yet, its still being worked on

That’s if they have the same loadout ofc, and it has a lower payload limit. There’s also some things I’m unsure of, being the initial RWR model used. Lots of stuff to dive into that I hope to get to someday. Anyway as for the FM, yes it’s better, and the best among serial production F-16s, but it’s not an extreme difference to even warrant a separate BR on its own, still worth keeping in mind regardless. And you’re probably already aware but D 30 also has 2 additional spine mounted countermeasure dispensers compared to the D 40

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I checked and it seems to be working just fine, only issue is that the second pulse does not generate a smoke trail

There are D40s with the extra spine mounted CM pods afaik

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If you can find any images that would be a huge buff, I haven’t seen any that aren’t the D 30. Theoretically it’s more than likely possible, I mean there’s the obvious markings for where they would go and all, just don’t think I’ve seen it done on them for whatever reason

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Regardless, I hope we get the Derby ER on the Barak, it’d be a pretty fun gimmick

oh thank god, thanks for the info