Give the new TGP's to all aircraft that can carry them

The Leviathans update is currently bringing two new targeting pods to the game that many already existing aircraft could carry in real life, these being:

the ATFLIR pod(on the Swiss F/A-18C Late)

and Sniper pod (on the F-2A).

Both of these pods can also be carried by other aircraft already in-game. Such as:
ATFLIR

US F/A-18C Late (also other F/A-18C's)

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Sniper ATP

F-16C (also on other F-16's such as the AM)

F-15C

F-15E

A-10C

Harrier GR7

Eurofighter Typhoon (Italian but should go for all as explained below)

Rafale

Some of these aircraft use Sniper but not by the nations we have in-game, however a nation doesn’t have to have them in their inventory or use them on their own aircraft as a bug reporting manager confirmed as much over a report about the Swiss F/A-18C having armament that the Swiss never had by saying:

"As long as a vehicle is able to fire and use a weapon (that is, it is technically compatible), then the weapon is open to consideration for the aircraft. Being in a given nations ownership/ stockpile is not a requirement."

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So, therefore both ATFLIR and Sniper ATP should also be given to the aircraft that are capable of carrying and using them, even if not used by their host nations in-game.

Current bug reports for missing ATFLIR/Sniper:
[DEV] US F/A-18C Late missing AN/ASQ-228 ATFLIR pod
[DEV] F-16C missing Sniper ATP
[DEV] F-16AM отсутствует контейнер целеуказания “Sniper”
[DEV] F-15E missing Sniper ATP
A-10C missing Sniper ATP
[DEV] Harrier GR.7 missing AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP

Should ATFLIR and Sniper ATP be given to all aircraft that can use them?
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the pic under the F16C spoiler is of an F/A18

Just fixed that

nice, but yea, more tgp’s to more planes (i’m seething the Su-27SM doesn’t have it’s SAPSAN tgp)

the su27 dosent get a tgp
the su35 does

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btw 04 red is the base camo of the 27SM in game

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that isnt a functioning tgp
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and even if the 27 would get it, what would you use it for?

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laser guided weaponry and better usage of Kh-29TD’s

Slightly better photo for gr7:

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Depending on how its modeled. Sniper for something like the Typhoon probably isnt necessarily needed as Litening III is very good. But would be a MASSIVE upgrade for the Gr7. Though I fear they will keep it as an “upgrade” for the Gr9A

Wouldnt it TECHNICALLY raise the BR of lot of aircraft?

Upgrade to TGP is the same as upgrade to tank thermals, it can affect the plane effectivness and as such, BR.

All of the aircraft mentioned are 12.0+ in GRB so without decompressing tank BR’s further then changing their BR’s would make no difference.

Gotta love the unfairness towards US planes this patch, no Sniper for any of their planes despite the US literally making the pod, no BOL pods for F-18 despite Finnish one getting them making it objectively better, no BOL pods for F-15s which were reported like a year ago…it’s so fkcn annoying

Eh…

What impact tpod performance has on BR is a debate to be had, but probably not much. In a lot of cases there are either already equal tpods at the same BR. Like for example F-15E getting Sniper vs the Typhoons Litening III or they are already suffeciently high that they probably wouldn’t change.

Usually its going from none or having one that has no thermals or tracking to having one or having one that does have those things is the biggest boost and thus maybe the biggest impact on BR

The biggest buffs would be for the A-10C which it would unlock the ability to run 6x AGM-65 + Tpod which imo would probably justify the 12.0 BR it already has and the Gr7 which currently only has TIALD. Whether its BR increases or not would be a debate, but I doubt it as its limited to 4x AGM-65 currently anyway.

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Well, It could provide IRST-esque capability (passive A2A search & track capability) to many of those airframes. which provides a significant leg up to them as most of the prospective airframes that it could be added to lack said capability especially in comparison to their counterparts which do.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pjOSfbSxSyPW


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It could, but id argue that would have more of an impact in terms of ARB/ASB BR rather than GRB BR.

And for the most part, same holds true.

Typhoon and Rafale and Su-30? already have IRST at 14.0. So F-15E getting it (at the cost of the drag of a tpod) isnt that big of a deal.

the GR7 is already at 12.3 in ARB/ASB with no radar at all. It getting IRST isnt going to suddenly change things (Though im not sure if it actually ever used that ability or even could use that ability IRL due to the lack of proper intergration) (would also have to give up a canon for the tpod too)

Maybe some of the F-16s? But again, probably wouldnt be that signficant. Especially with how badly modeled IRST is at the moment

Yeah Sniper for the GR.7 would be great, decided to make a report for t anyway.

[DEV] Harrier GR.7 missing AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP

Not the best report in the world but it’s sources from Lockheed Martin themselves so it shouldn’t atleast be thrown out.

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Gunjob probably has it covered already too. I just reckon it will be an “upgrade” for the Gr9

Probably, worth a shot though anyway

How would Litening Gen 4 (not in-game) compare to Sniper?