Give the F18E in the upcoming ,,Hornet String" update

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Hello guys,

I think the F/A 18 C (late) its not an 14.0 Br jet.
It can carry 10 Aim120 and 2 Aim9M, but the number of missiles is not such an advantage.

Why am I declaring this?
in air rb, when everyone is spamming missiles and there are many enemies in a zone, you don’t have time to shoot them all sometimes.

(I’m not saying this because im an american main player. I have a complete Italian-German-Russian-Sweeden and literally American air tech tree, but for me the “magic” of the F/A 18C was lost because it could have come earlier. What would have been a new and real competitor for the Eurofighter, Su 30 Sm, F15E, F16C, is the F18E Super Hornet.)

The weakness of the jet is that it takes a lot of energy with one turn and its top speed is not high, acceleration=between mid and good.
-Not enough countermeasures (only 60 currently in dev server. It will be changed maybe to 120, but i think its not enough good , because the jet not accelerating too fast and the top speed is low, compared to another 14.0 br jets)

(The advantage is that the AoA mod can be turned off.)

Due to its disadvantages, it is a weaker jet in 14.0 br in spite of having these advantages (which I have described).

I think F/A 18C (late) is not good on 14.0 br. I don’t want to emphasize that it is bad. I’m saying it can’t quite compete in a 14.0 br air rb match with a Su 30-Sm, Eurofighter or F15E jet.
That’s why I personally would prefer a Eurofighter, Su 30 Sm, F15E, Eurofighter instead of F/A 18C (late) (it deserves a br of 13.7)

The F/A 18E Super Hornet would have been an option as a 14.0 br jet= extra acceleration, more decent top speed, because of higher thrust by stronger engines (like the Eurofighter, F15E), redesigned engine intakes and countermeasures.

Do you want to see the F/A 18E Super Hornet in the next upcoming ,Hornet String" update?
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The F-18C is superior for air RB than F-18E due to its superior airframe performance.
F-18E/C have the same 120 countermeasures internally.

Su-30SM will also have the worst airframe performance at 14.0 now due to its hilariously low TWR, so it’ll definitely be carried by its radar and R-77-1s.

F-18C is so far looking like the 3rd best airframe at top BR.

Not only all of that, but if F-18E is unplayable, it can’t be released for us to play anyway.

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You can’t add something that’s not modeled dude

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Personally, gaijin not add USN F/A-18E Early (Block 1 standard) until the winter major update this year or second major update 2026

14.3 minimum, maybe

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I can agree with this video. Su 30 SM will be better because it have Thrust Vectoring, 50g missiles, better top speed and the R77-1 it have better range than the normal R77. The radar of Su 30 Sm its not bad.

I’m not saying this because im an american main player. I have a complete Italian-German-Russian-Sweeden and literally American air tech tree, but for me the “magic” of the F/A 18C was lost because it could have come earlier. What would have been a new and real competitor for the Eurofighter, Su 30 Sm, F15E, F16C, is the F18E Super Hornet.

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F-18C rates at 20.4 deg/sec AKA retains energy at that rate.
Which is at least 0.9 deg/sec faster than Su-27SM, F-16C, F-15C, and J-11B.
And 1.1 deg/sec faster than F-15E.
Oh, and the Su-27 and F-18 have more fuel than the F-15s in this situation.

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This is preliminary results for TTC.
I haven’t tested the 5 minutes for F-18C yet, or the 9 minutes of other aircraft.

F-18E is inferior for air RB than the F-18C.
F-18C is the real competitor.
It’s like ~95% of Rafale performance.

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Ah yes, let me just model the F-18E and all its weapons and whatnot rq, just in time for the second dev! What a wondrous idea that totally wouldn’t end with a halfbaked aircraft with more bugs and issues than the support system can handle!

As much as I want the F-18E, multiple things contribute to it not getting here
One: development takes time, believe it or not
Two: it would be pointless to add it in this update, especially while we’re still capped at 14.0 that would end up with a Leo2A5^ situation where the Strv 122A/B++/PLSS, Leo2A5, PSO, 2A6, and 2A7 are all the same level according to BR.
Three: the F-18E is ugly and fat and… stupid and fat and… dumb and stupid and… (ad nauseam)

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  1. According to dev leak list before the trailer, it would have come in this update. So I don’t think it’s that half-baked. 2. You don’t need to model and add all weapons of the F/A 18E. (example: Eurofighter does not have Meteor/Iris-T air-to-air missile either)
    3 . The Super Hornet looks better to me. I think the F/A 18C is uglier.
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What was the devleak btw? (Not meant to sound rude there, just if it was CD it never even disclosed it was the hornet in the first place)

Adding the F/A-18E without its other ordinance wouldn’t have really changed much between it and the F/A-18C

Oh and to each their own, but reg hornet cuter

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Just increase size by 25% and add extra pair of hard points. /j

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,Adding the F/A-18E without its other ordinance wouldn’t have really changed much between it and the F/A-18C"

Believe me, the extra acceleration and top speed (like the Eurofighter, F15E have (and F16C speed at high altitude)) matter a lot in Top tier air rb.

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But the F-18 isn’t really going to suffer from that. The acceleration and top speed of at least the F/A-18A is mostly on par with a spaded F-16A B10 (the best one fm-wise at least at its BR). I haven’t gotten to play with either of the Cs yet as I have yet to research the F-14A and I’m only at rank V in Sweden but it’s not going to be as completely mid, the airframe is built to fight slow, it may be lacking in the speed department but it’s going tk be one of (if not) America’s best dogfighter as of current. I also don’t go to height unless I have ARHs and then once they’re in their active range I return to 300ft, so my experiences are going to be significantly different

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How its weaker the F/A18E than the F/A18C in air rb?
The F18E Super Hornet have stronger engines=better top speed, acceleration…

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The F/A 18 C (late) is suffering by this.

  1. You need speed for bvr (which F/A 18C doesnt have compared to another aircrafts in 14.0 br.
  2. You need acceleration to defend the missiles + To accelerate back after one manouver in the aim120 spam zone.)
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lol The F-18E has a significantly lower TWR than the F-18C while being a draggier design as well.

The F-18C is the peak airframe performance F-18 ever made.
And in-game on dev server it’s performing as well as F-16A in sustained turn rate when parity fuel is equipped, which is accurate.

F-18E weighs over 3 tons more empty.

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, From 1991, F/A-18Cs were delivered with the F404-GE-402 Enhanced Performance Engine (EPE), which improved fuel efficiency and yielded 17,700lb/st (78.73kN) of thrust. The EPE was later retrofitted to the earlier Hornets.

Two 22,000lb/st (97.86kN) General Electric F414-GE-400 turbofans power the Super Hornet.

The Hornet’s oval engine intakes were also completely redesigned – the Super Hornet’s rectangular inlets providing 18% more airflow to the more powerful engines. "

🤨🧐

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The Super Hornet WEIGHS more and has a draggier wing area.
The Super Hornet performs worse, this is a fact that I had to accept last year myself.

The F-414 engines would have to produce FAR more thrust than they to overcome the 14,500kg of empty mass + more fuel + larger wings.

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Would have to be more like F100-PW-229 or F110-GE-129 to make up for the weight

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Bruhhhh that thing sucks at rate fighting irl, it’ll be wild if it makes it to live that way

I won’t be mad, cause I fucking love the Hornet, but it’ll be wild

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The F/A 18E have better Thrust/Weight Ratio than the F/A18C