wdym hated?
I remember someone made a report about the temperature of the f5s engines with actual nasa documents and then gaijin rejected it bc of thier random russian book about the f5 that has data that they prpb made up
The F-5 is somewhat hated due to it being undertiered for quite a while, having a very strong damage model, and having the most BS heat signature ever.
It’s the only plane where you can barely lock anywhere but a rear aspect shot if you’re not using all-aspect missiles.
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so it is launchable against tanks. good.
Pretty much, literal sky rat energy
oh yeah for sure. I love it so much.
Eh, not as many games as i would’ve guessed but a good amount, at least its not a low BR vehicle where people seal club…
Though still, the F5A has weaker engines than the F5’s it will meet
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I don’t see how it could keep homing aspect against ground targets or behave more than manual guidance with MCLOS controls.
We did just go through similar things with Brimstones, we know Gaijin’s official stance on features missiles don’t have.
idk. you trade engine for IRCCM. I think it’s going to be good if it’s not above 12.3
Being one of the most compressed places in the game there is no one good place to put it but I would have it at 12.3 with 9L/Is at a JH-7A alternative.
It’s not quite good enough to be 12.7 as a F-16A Blk.10 alternative but 12.3 seems right to me. I just don’t want IRCCM any lower than it has to be.
Maybe , the issue with it is, its still an F5 at the end of the day and most folks are now aware of howto fight it, especially at higher BRs.
12.3 sits it with the mirage 2000S C-4 , which is miles, literally miles better than an F5 in every way bar retention
The M2K is undertiered and should not be considered as the base for the BR, I’m looking at the JH-7A and Kurnass 2K for my opinions.
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Kurnass 2k is miles ahead of this F5 as well.
also the JH7A is actually quite a good platform for a strike fighter at the BR.
any other 12.3s? cause if im honest even if this got 9Ms it would struggle to be 12.3, the bison is what 12.3?
it has R73s and R27s.
suped up radar and avionics as well as HMD
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And that is compression.
The JH-7A has a worse FM and 4 AIM-9L equivalents, which balances out to 2 AIM-9L/Is. Only iffy thing there is the F-5s avionics. A decompression of 0.7 in that area would fix this pretty quick and keep the F-5A(G) from being overtiered or undertiered.
Again if it cant be used for CAS then the jet really has no place, the Danish or Norwegian F16 would have been better options since they’d actually help the air tree heavily
The J7HA has the equivelant of two python 3s and two 9Ls is it not? or did it get changed and ive missed it?
And the J7HA has far better acceleration and top speed than the F5A last i checked as well, its FM isnt worse generally speaking, the F5A retains speed sure, but it also cant drop below about 750kmph or it just sheds it insanely quickly, then struggles to regain it, where the J7HA can accelerate back out of it again.
also the 20mms on the F5 just aint what they used to be man, the velocity is incredibly short on them now compared to when u used to get 1km snipes.
Id 100 percent take the J7HA at that BR than an F5A
The JH-7A has 2 PL-8s (Python 3 copies, Pythons are marginally better than AIM-9Ls so I consider them equivalents) and 2 PL-5Cs (AIM-9L but fast for a little bit).
The acceleration part is true but the F-5A will wipe it in a dogfight easily. The JH-7A also has ye olde GSh-23 so better or worse depending on your opinion regarding that gun.
I would really say it’s down to opinion and we can agree to disagree. I’m intrigued to see how Gaijin chooses to balance it though.
Not technically true for either, the PL8’s function better than 9Ls due to the way the missile pulls, so it has more range if i remember right.
and PL5Cs are absolutely better than 9Ls IMO the fact they are so fast means they are longer range AND have the advantage of the motor burning out faster leaving them invisible for longer.
Hardly mate? the only advantage as ive said the 5A has is retention, the JH7A has better AoA and acceleration, and missiles, as well as a higher CM count (as far as we know as the 5A didnt have internal CMs so may need pods). the missiles are objectively better unless the F5A G gets 9Ms.
Depending what its mounted on, its by far the biggest and IMO only draw back for the striker.
remember youre comparing what is a designated air supperiority fighter, with a 2 man strike plane.
that is not good xD
Btw its really not, look at the F5E FCU for japan its BR is what? 11.3 and its an F5E with all aspect 9Ps and two python 3s so yeah-
The JH7A sits a full step above the FCU with comparable missiles, its a better platform